From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Jon Nelson <jnelson+pgsql(at)jamponi(dot)net>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: 9.4 regression |
Date: | 2013-09-04 16:52:09 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmoY=L54r=uX2hPrrdhxuzAxPPFGfGuakBJyjOHE=6CE9zg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> writes:
>> * Andres Freund (andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com) wrote:
>>> I'd vote for adding zeroing *after* the fallocate() first. That's what's
>>> suggested by kernel hackers and what several other large applications
>>> do. As it looks like it's what we would have to do if we ever get to use
>>> fallocate for relation extension where we would have actual benefits
>>> from it.
>
>> Does that actually end up doing anything different from what we were
>> doing pre-patch here? At best, it *might* end up using a larger extent,
>> but unless we can actually be confident that it does, I'm not convinced
>> the additional complexity is worth it and would rather see this simply
>> reverted.
>
>> One might ask why the kernel guys aren't doing this themselves or
>> figuring out why it's necessary to make it worthwhile.
>
> The larger picture is that that isn't the committed behavior,
> but a different one, one which would need performance testing.
>
> At this point, I vote for reverting the patch and allowing it to be
> resubmitted for a fresh round of testing with the zeroing added.
> And this time we'll need to do the testing more carefully.
+1.
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Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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