Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Declarative partitioning in pgAdmin4

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Harshal Dhumal <harshal(dot)dhumal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Akshay Joshi <akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>, Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io>, Ashesh Vashi <ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Declarative partitioning in pgAdmin4
Date: 2017-06-23 15:24:52
Message-ID: CA+OCxoze5yTR0Q4aHrnicUfRCRbHAVw5UJ-=Deng+Vb=KwGDUw@mail.gmail.com
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Thanks - Ashesh, can you review/commit this please? Additional reviews
welcome as well of course.

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Harshal Dhumal <
harshal(dot)dhumal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please find attached patch for partition support.
>
> This patch includes all the work done by Akashy and support for child
> nodes (constraints, rules, index, triggers and partition itself ) under
> partition node.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> *Harshal Dhumal*
> *Sr. Software Engineer*
>
> EnterpriseDB India: http://www.enterprisedb.com
> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:59 AM Akshay Joshi <
>> akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks good. I noticed people clicking back and forth to the columns tab
>>>> to remember which columns they've created while filling out the Expressions
>>>> column. It might be better to have a list of the columns and the datatype
>>>> above the 'Partition Keys' subnode and have columns as a type field rather
>>>> than a drop down.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think we should not duplicate that data as we already have all the
>>> information on "Columns" tab and by providing drop down user can select
>>> columns from there only.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, I think the fields someone sees after selecting the Key type
>>>> needs to depend on what they select. Seeing both Column and Expressions
>>>> type field might lead someone to think they need to fill out both fields.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We can't, because user can select one column and provide an
>>> expression as partition key in this case we will have to show both the
>>> columns in subnode control. Anyways when user select columns I have
>>> disabled the expression cell and if user selects expression column cell is
>>> disabled.
>>>
>>
>> Ah I see what you mean. What I meant was that the column would change
>> depending on if someone selects Column or Expressions from the dropdown
>> [image: expression.png]
>> Can a user select more than one key type? The use case I can see where
>> hiding 'Columns' or 'Expressions' would fail is if someone can create an
>> expression key type and a column key type.
>>
>> Disabling a feature is one way to guide user behavior, but it doesn't
>> provide enough context for someone to understand why it's disabled. It's
>> better to only display what is absolutely necessary and hide fields that
>> are unrelated to the workflow.
>>
>> Typically, disabling a UI element is useful when that disabled UI element
>> also provides some context or value while disabled. In this case, I'm not
>> sure it is.
>>
>> If hiding options isn't possible, providing some text in the fields (like
>> N/A or --) would be helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> [image: coluns_partitioning.png]
>>>> When is the 'In' column in the Partitions subnode enabled?
>>>>
>>>
>>> In case of 'List' Partition.
>>>
>>
>> It would improve the experience if the 'In' column was removed when a
>> user selects 'Range' partitions then. And then if a user is creating a
>> 'List' partition, 'From/To' should be hidden. In this case, 'From/To' and
>> 'In' are dependent on that first drop down step, so seeing 'In' while on
>> 'Range partitions' (and 'From/To' on 'List partitions') is not providing
>> any value.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> For the NoteControl on the bottom, what do 'Mode Control' or 'Attach
>>>> Mode' refer to? And how can I tell the difference between 'Create Mode' and
>>>> 'Edit Mode'?
>>>>
>>>
>>> 'Mode control' is a switch control in subnode control that should be
>>> "Mode switch control". 'Create Mode' is when user creates the new table by
>>> clicking create-> table and 'Edit Mode' is when user open the properties
>>> dialog for the existing table. In case of 'Edit Mode' there are two ways
>>> user can create/attach partitions. In Attach mode we will identify and list
>>> down the suitable tables to be attached.
>>>
>>
>> I see. Describing these various states is great in case a user needs it.
>> What are your thoughts on having it live in the documentation of pgAdmin4
>> rather than in the dialog? This seems to be the established pattern for all
>> other explanations.
>>
>>>
>

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