From: | Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> |
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To: | Jeremy Schneider <schnjere(at)amazon(dot)com> |
Cc: | "Drouvot, Bertrand" <bdrouvot(at)amazon(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Display individual query in pg_stat_activity |
Date: | 2020-07-27 16:00:17 |
Message-ID: | CA+OCxoz9gjM=Vary_P=y7z4wzBh+SMDhbY=0E5=qDOEo5h9S8g@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:28 PM Jeremy Schneider <schnjere(at)amazon(dot)com>
wrote:
> On 7/27/20 07:57, Dave Page wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I'd want that to happen, as it could make it much harder to
> track the activity back to a query in the application layer or server logs.
>
> Perhaps a separate field could be added for the current statement, or a
> value to indicate what the current statement number in the query is?
>
>
> Might be helpful to give some specifics about circumstances where strings
> can appear in pg_stat_activity.query with multiple statements.
>
> 1) First of all, IIUC multiple statements are only supported in the first
> place by the simple protocol and PLs. Anyone using parameterized
> statements (bind variables) should be unaffected by this.
>
> 2) My read of the official pg JDBC driver is that even for batch
> operations it currently iterates and sends each statement individually. I
> don't think the JDBC driver has the capability to send multiple statements,
> so java apps using this driver should be unaffected.
>
That is just one of a number of different popular drivers of course.
>
> 3) psql -c will always send the string as a single "simple protocol"
> request. Scripts will be impacted.
>
> 4) PLs also seem to have a code path that can put multiple statements in
> pg_stat_activity when parallel slaves are launched. PL code will be
> impacted.
>
> 5) pgAdmin uses the simple protocol and when a user executes a block of
> statements, pgAdmin seems to send the whole block as a single "simple
> protocol" request. Tools like pgAdmin will be impacted.
>
It does. It also prepends some queries with comments, specifically to allow
users to filter them out when they're analysing logs (a feature requested
by users, not just something we thought was a good idea). I'm assuming that
this patch would also strip those?
>
> At the application layer, it doesn't seem problematic to me if PostgreSQL
> reports each query one at a time. IMO most people will find this to be a
> more useful behavior and they will still find their queries in their app
> code or app logs.
>
I think there are arguments to be made for both approaches.
>
> However at the PostgreSQL logging layer this is a good call-out. I just
> did a quick test on 14devel to double-check my assumption and it does seem
> that PostgreSQL logs the entire combined query for psql -c. I think it
> would be better for PostgreSQL to report queries individually in the log
> too - for example pgBadger summaries will be even more useful if they
> report information for each individual query rather than a single big block
> of multiple queries.
>
> Given how small this patch is, it seems worthwhile to at least investigate
> whether the logging component could be addressed just as easily.
>
> -Jeremy
>
> --
> Jeremy Schneider
> Database Engineer
> Amazon Web Services
>
>
>
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