Re: How do I tell pgAdmin 4 to not harass me with pointless extra clicks every single time I want to use it?

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Mark Murawski <markm-lists(at)intellasoft(dot)net>
Cc: "pgadmin-support lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgadmin-support(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Akshay Joshi <akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: How do I tell pgAdmin 4 to not harass me with pointless extra clicks every single time I want to use it?
Date: 2020-09-28 09:56:07
Message-ID: CA+OCxoyxbibmKeOuUmVeQRdm43=44TKNW6uw9Dd+gg7YorAWsg@mail.gmail.com
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Hi

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 7:32 PM Mark Murawski <markm-lists(at)intellasoft(dot)net>
wrote:

> On 2020-09-24 04:35, Dave Page wrote:
>
> >
> > Another missing feature is double click on a column header to expand
> > the
> > column to fit the data.
> >
> >
> > That functionality has been there for a long time (you actually
> > double-click on the right-hand vertical separator in the header).
>
> Weird... would not have thought to double-click there.
>

That's how the underlying library does it. It's not our design :-/

>
>
> > Another missing feature is the little DDL window in the bottom left
> > corner so you can see DDL while also navigating around.
> >
> >
> > That has been there since v1.0. The default location is the main tabset
> > now, but you can drag the tab to dock it in the bottom corner.
> >
>
> Okay.. I ran though some more tests with this... you can drag it around,
> but it either covers your workspace or it docks to the bottom or the
> side. After quite a lot of putzing around I finally got it to dock to a
> corner. I was only able to do this once. It's now currently stuck on
> either to be docked on the bottom or on the left. It's REALLY difficult
> to get it to dock in the corner.
>

Odd. This is how it works for me: https://youtu.be/xzEhkuYmyjo. Is there
anything obviously different, or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

>
>
>
> >
> > Another crazy behavior is when trying to organize the layout and move
> > things like the SQL/DDL window, it's really difficult to put the SQL
> > window back into the original location where
> > Statistics/Dependencies/etc
> > is. I wind up having to do 'reset layout' a lot. There's just an
> odd
> > lag to the window managment and it also stops working when you run
> over
> > a window border.
> >
> >
> > I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I have no problems dragging tabs
> > around and re-docking panels, though admittedly I don't typically work
> > on Linux clients.
>
>
> By 'window border' I meant inner component window-border. It's hard to
> explain, but the docking behavior is just, very strange sometimes. I
> can try to get some specific examples.
>
> >
> > It looks like Pgadmin4 must run in a browser these days. It looks
> like
> > the self-contained local-web type of runtime is not available
> anymore.
> > For my workflow, running in a browser just doesn't work at all.
> >
> >
> > Yes, unfortunately there were serious performance issues with the Qt
> > browser controls used in early versions that we were unable to resolve.
> > Most users that don't want to use their normal browser session will set
> > a custom browser command to use a dedicated profile so it doesn't
> > interfere with the default browser sessions.
> >
> > How does OmniDB resolve this issue for you, as that also runs in a
> browser?
>
>
> For me Omni does not run in a browser, it has its own application window.
>

OK.

>
>
>
> > If you close the dashboard or the scratch pad there's no way to get
> it
> > back, unless you reset the layout. If you wind up losing the Browser
> > window in the layout, there's no way to get it back without resetting
> > the layout.
> >
> >
> > Right-click the tab bar and re-open them from the menu there.
>
>
> Okay.. I to see the 'Add Panel -> Dashboard' But it doesn't do
> anything. It opens up a blank non-functional component.
> https://imgur.com/a/43RLvMy
>
> There's also no way to re-open the scratch pad.
>

Both work for me: https://youtu.be/3xnLNEM9Lqg. Again though, am I
misunderstanding you?

>
>
> > 'Detach Panel' of a query console pops up a completely blank,
> > non-functional window.
> >
> >
> > Can you explain more about that please? I don't understand what you mean.
>
>
> When you detach a panel it also looks like this:
> https://imgur.com/a/43RLvMy

I did see that once, but struggled to reproduce it. Akshay, can you or one
of the team take a look please?

>
>
>
> > You should always be able to grab the label. Is there a case where that
> > doesn't work for you?
>
>
> I cannot reproduce this right now, but I was trying to drag 'SQL' and
> all i was getting was a drag and drop handle, like dragging a file. It
> was not interacting with the page at all.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Ultimately I think there are a number of issue classes here:
> >
> > - Some are features that are there, but you haven't yet found (e.g. the
> > result copy/paste format).
> > - Some are features that may or may not have been in pgAdmin 3
> > (actually, I think the only one that was there, was having the function
> > node under the trigger node)
> > - Some are simply limitations of webapps in general.
> >
>
> The other item is things that I've gotten used to in other apps, like
> restore all query/console windows.
>

OK, thanks.

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Dave Page
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