Re: Heroku early upgrade is raising serious questions

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: damien clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info>
Cc: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jonathan(dot)katz(at)excoventures(dot)com>, Selena Deckelmann <selena(at)chesnok(dot)com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Heroku early upgrade is raising serious questions
Date: 2013-04-03 09:06:08
Message-ID: CA+OCxoy9Jj8t9T=p2owkROyVgUU6ucT_+nx0O0ncitHrXtxQ5g@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:48 AM, damien clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info> wrote:
>
>> How would that work? The reason we have a number of days between the
>> tarballs being rolled and the embargo date is that it takes time to
>> build and properly QA the packages. In the case of the installers,
>> each branch gets tested on 30 - 40 different platforms in total. It is
>> simply not possible to "not produce the packages prior to the official
>> realease".
>>
>
> Ok maybe I was not clear enough here. With the word "produce" I meant
> "making available to public". I'm awara the packagers need time to build
> and test their packages.
>
> What I am saying is that the packagers should not release publicly the
> packages before the official release date.

Right, I agree with that.

>> No, most definitely not. The packagers list is a working/coordination
>> list, not one for discussion. We need to keep that list tightly
>> purposed and focussed on those actually creating packages for public
>> distribution and arguably in the future, deployment on public DBaaS
>> platforms (the key word in both cases, being "public").
>>
>
> Meh. What do you mean by "public" ? To me something that is "available
> to everyone" or "open to general view". If you include paying services
> sucha as Red Hat and Heroku in this "public" definition, than I guess
> PostgreSQL support company is "public" too ? Where's the difference ?

PostgreSQL support companies do not generally produce PostgreSQL
binary packages that are available for anyone to use (for a service
fee or otherwise) either via download or on a platform like a cloud
service. There are a handful of exceptions to that rule (EDB for
example, as we produce the installers), but most, if not all of those
companies are on the packagers list already.

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