Re: [pgAdmin][RM-2341]: Add menu option for starting PSQL

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Nikhil Mohite <nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Akshay Joshi <akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Fahar Abbas <fahar(dot)abbas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: [pgAdmin][RM-2341]: Add menu option for starting PSQL
Date: 2021-06-14 14:48:43
Message-ID: CA+OCxoy5XgHuTxJjDboQz_wzE2O1iwg9zftPMdNzGj5iMPhCXg@mail.gmail.com
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Hi

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 3:43 PM Nikhil Mohite <
nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 8:05 PM Akshay Joshi <
> akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 7:57 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 3:18 PM Nikhil Mohite <
>>> nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Akshay,
>>>>
>>>> I have added the following commands for invalid command check:
>>>>
>>>> 1. \lo_import
>>>> 2. \lo_export
>>>> 3. \w or write
>>>> 4. \o or \output
>>>> 5. \g
>>>>
>>>> \qecho? \ev?
>>>
>>> I'm very concerned we're missing more here, and will continue to miss
>>> new commands that are added to psql in the future.
>>>
>>> I think we need to disable the feature entirely in server mode by
>>> default, and probably remove the code that attempts to filter out commands.
>>>
>> In this case, ALLOW_SHELL_COMMAND will be not useful, should we remove it
> from config.py?
>

Right, that's what I'm suggesting (see previous email).

We simply do the following:

- Always enable psql in desktop mode.
- Only enable psql in server mode, if the admin overrides the default
configuration

>
>> If I understand correctly we need to change in config.py and make
>> ENABLE_PSQL = False in server mode.
>>
>>>
>>> Then it just becomes a case of "this can be dangerous in server mode, as
>>> your user will be able to run arbitrary commands on the server. Enable at
>>> your own risk".
>>>
>>
>> The above note will go into the config.py as a comment or in the
>> documentation.
>>
>
>>>
>>>> I am referring to the https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/app-psql.html
>>>> link for finding the commands.
>>>> PFA patch V10.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:48 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2:13 PM Nikhil Mohite <
>>>>> nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Akshay,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please find the updated patch for psql, Updated invalid command logic
>>>>>> added 3 more commands in it.
>>>>>> 1. \copy or \COPY
>>>>>> 2. \e or \E
>>>>>> 3. \ef or \EF
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Should they just be case insensitive?
>>>>>
>>>> \ commands are case sensitive.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So what are \E and \EF? I can't see them in the pg13 docs.
>>>
>> These commands open the vi editor on macOS and notepad on windows for
> writing the commands.
>

Not on my installation:

postgres=# \E
invalid command \E
Try \? for help.
postgres=# \EF
invalid command \EF
Try \? for help.

\e and \ef (and \ev) do what you describe though.

>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now user can't execute these commands if allow shell commands is set
>>>>>> to False.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What about \lo_import and \lo_export? I think those are potentially
>>>>> dangerous too. Also, \echo.
>>>>>
>>>> added this as well.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If required any changes please let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Nikhil Mohite
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 11:48 AM Akshay Joshi <
>>>>>> akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, the patch applied.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:55 AM Nikhil Mohite <
>>>>>>> nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PFA patch v8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:25 AM Nikhil Mohite <
>>>>>>>> nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please find the updated patch for the PSQL tool, Added check if
>>>>>>>>> the Windows version is not supporting the ConPty or WinPty disable the PSQL
>>>>>>>>> for that version. (PSQL option will not visible to the user).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have raised the issue with "pywinpty"
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/spyder-ide/pywinpty/issues/161
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Nikhil Mohite
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 6:25 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:45 PM Fahar Abbas <
>>>>>>>>>> fahar(dot)abbas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:39 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 9:35 AM Fahar Abbas <
>>>>>>>>>>>> fahar(dot)abbas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure Dave, I will create a new VM with the latest iso.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not the latest. 1809 please. And if that doesn't work, 1909. We
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to understand exactly what versions work and which don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> pgadmin4 is working fine on Windows 10 x64(1809).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Great, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do I also need to test pgadmin4 on 1909 iso?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think so. I'm 99% certain that what we're seeing is that
>>>>>>>>>> it works on the versions of Windows that support conpty, but not the older
>>>>>>>>>> ones where the pywinpty library is *supposed* to fall back to using winpty.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully Nikhil can get to the bottom of the problem with the
>>>>>>>>>> pywinpty folks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikhil is not able to reproduce the issue on Windows 10 with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest version. So the issue is reproducible with older versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:28 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 9:25 AM Fahar Abbas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fahar(dot)abbas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I assume that is version 1607. Can you test with 1809
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please? And if that doesn't work, try 1909.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:12 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:44 AM Fahar Abbas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fahar(dot)abbas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pgadmin4 is failing on following operating systems :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 2016
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 2012
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 07
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 2008R2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10 64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What version of Windows 10? I *think* conpty was introduced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 1809.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pgadmin4 is working fine in following operating system:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 2019
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 7:51 PM Dave Page <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 2:22 PM Nikhil Mohite <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Dave Page <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 2:00 PM Nikhil Mohite <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 5:22 PM Dave Page <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:08 AM Nikhil Mohite <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nikhil(dot)mohite(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dave/ Team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are facing an issue with winpty.dll on Windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server 2016 and Windows 7(these are platforms on which we have tested).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Files required for winpty are present in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site-packages but still, it is unable to load the winpty.dll file on these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific platforms. We have tested it on Windows 10 pro and Windows server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2019 and it is working fine. (Also tried building the local pywinpty but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unable to build it.) ref link for winPty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rprichard/winpty#:~:text=winpty%20is%20a%20Windows%20software,in%20a%20Cygwin%2FMSYS%20pty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does winpty.exe run, if executed from the command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line instead of pgAdmin? If not, does dependency walker show any missing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries that are required?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not found the winpty.exe in site packages, but as per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the winpty documents "winpty-agent.exe" will start the process with a new,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden console window. It is not showing any error while installing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package. I tried to use it outside the pgAdmin but still facing the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error "Exception in import winpty DLL load failed while importing winpty:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The specified procedure could not be found."(created a separate python
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment for this)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. if try to run winpty-agent.exe from the command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line, it shows the user entered inputs on the same terminal, not showing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. I found winpty.exe in the other installed app (Git
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line: C:\Program Files (x86)\Git\usr\bin) if try to run it through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the command line not getting any error, it is showing user entered inputs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the same terminal. (It is not related to pgAdmin but just tried to check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> winpty.exe throwing any error or not)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm, that sounds oddly similar to an issue I had with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerberos on Windows when I was mucking around with that. I can't remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the exact details, but as a test, does the problem go away if winpty.dll is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copied into the Windows system32 directory?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tried it but still facing the same issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I had a fiddle around, and see the same thing. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't do a simple import of winpty. On 2019 it's fine. I tried various
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tricks that I've used in the past to make sure libraries are found etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could this be because it's trying to use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conpty interface in Windows 10 and above?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we can't get this to work tomorrow, I think it's fine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to simply hide the menu options and button if the server detects it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running on an unsupported version of Windows. Of course, this should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documented. We also need to make sure we know *exactly* what versions it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does and does not work on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fahar Abbas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Office: +92-51-835-8874
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Direct: +92-51-8466803
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +92-333-5409707
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: *live:fahar.abbas*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website: www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fahar Abbas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Office: +92-51-835-8874
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Direct: +92-51-8466803
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +92-333-5409707
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: *live:fahar.abbas*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website: www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fahar Abbas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Office: +92-51-835-8874
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Direct: +92-51-8466803
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +92-333-5409707
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: *live:fahar.abbas*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website: www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Fahar Abbas
>>>>>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Office: +92-51-835-8874
>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Direct: +92-51-8466803
>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +92-333-5409707
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: *live:fahar.abbas*
>>>>>>>>>>> Website: www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>>>>>> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Thanks & Regards*
>>>>>>> *Akshay Joshi*
>>>>>>> *pgAdmin Hacker | Principal Software Architect*
>>>>>>> *EDB Postgres <http://edbpostgres.com>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Mobile: +91 976-788-8246*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>
>>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nikhil Mohite
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>
>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> *Thanks & Regards*
>> *Akshay Joshi*
>> *pgAdmin Hacker | Principal Software Architect*
>> *EDB Postgres <http://edbpostgres.com>*
>>
>> *Mobile: +91 976-788-8246*
>>
> Regards,
> Nikhil Mohite
>

--
Dave Page
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Twitter: @pgsnake

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