Re: pgadmin4 for fedora 35

From: Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: richard coleman <rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com>, Aditya Toshniwal <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "pgadmin-support lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgadmin-support(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgadmin4 for fedora 35
Date: 2021-11-23 10:34:22
Message-ID: CA+OCxoxRmKBtz-_ohBXY9NTcdKH+RnnSdmkruUTPBmyPoz294A@mail.gmail.com
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Yeah, I managed to fat-finger the commit :-(. I've already fixed it, so
tonight's build should be good.

Sorry about that.

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 9:39 AM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> Instatlled daily build 23/11 pgadmin4-fedora-repo.noarch and tried
> sudo dnf install pgadmin4-web
> ...
>
> Dependencies resolved.
>
> ====================================================================================================================================================================================
> Package Architecture
> Version
> Repository Size
>
> ====================================================================================================================================================================================
> Installing:
> pgadmin4-web noarch
> 6.2-1.fc35
> pgAdmin4 8.7 k
> Installing dependencies:
> pgadmin4-server x86_64
> 6.2-1.fc35
> pgAdmin4 85 M
> postgresql14-libs x86_64
> 14.1-1PGDG.f35
> pgAdmin4 277 k
>
> Transaction Summary
>
> ====================================================================================================================================================================================
> Install 3 Packages
>
> Total download size: 85 M
> Installed size: 199 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
> Downloading Packages:
> (1/3): pgadmin4-web-6.2-1.fc35.noarch.rpm
>
> 33 kB/s | 8.7 kB 00:00
> (2/3): postgresql14-libs-14.1-1PGDG.f35.x86_64.rpm
>
> 619 kB/s | 277 kB 00:00
> (3/3): pgadmin4-server-6.2-1.fc35.x86_64.rpm
>
> 6.0 MB/s | 85 MB 00:14
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Total
>
> 6.0 MB/s | 85 MB 00:14
> Running transaction check
> Transaction check succeeded.
> Running transaction test
> The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful
> transaction.
> You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'.
> Error: Transaction test error:
> file /usr/lib/.build-id/fb/0ab37232a700c1fc92e0fd8e1a6193224b1749
> from install of pgadmin4-server-6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 conflicts with file
> from package python3-3.10.0-1.fc35.x86_64
>
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 11:23, Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 3:48 PM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Lo and behold, I just upgraded a laptop to f35 with pgadmin4 still
> >> installed and it was enough to install python9 to get a running
> >> desktop version. So when upgrading don't rm pgadmin, disable the
> >> pgadmin repo and afterwards install python9. Not sure if that will
> >> work for the web version.
> >
> >
> > That's good to know - thanks for the info.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:35, richard coleman
> >> <rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dave,
> >> >
> >> > Good to know,
> >> >
> >> > thanks,
> >> > rik.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 8:43 AM Dave Page <dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 12:41 PM richard coleman <
> rcoleman(dot)ascentgl(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Dave,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Have you ever considered using something like flatpak (
> https://flatpak.org/ ) for the Linux versions of pgAdmin? It might; make
> it easier to handle the many different distributions, and deal with the
> different release schedules of the many dependencies that pgAdmin relies
> upon.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Technologies like Flatpak make it significantly harder to maintain
> applications like pgAdmin, and for system administrators to ensure their
> systems are secure. This is primarily because they bundle third party
> libraries within the application package, which means that every time there
> is a security update to a library such as OpenSSL, we need to update the
> package we distribute, and the system administrator can't simply do a yum
> update or equivalent and be sure that their system is as secure as
> possible. It also means end users need to install a separate package
> management tool from the one that is native to their system.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, whilst (if we had the resources) I wouldn't object to supporting
> Flatpak and similar, I would certainly not want them to replace the
> standard native packages as the primary offering.
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just a thought.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> rik.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 4:23 AM Dave Page <
> dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 8:11 AM toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> fwiw That didn't work out. Symlinks where pointing to 3.9 though I
> >> >>>>> stopped at Failed to exec Python script file
> >> >>>>> '/usr/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.wsgi'... ModuleNotFoundError: No
> module
> >> >>>>> named 'flask'
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> :-(.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I guess I've to practice some patience.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Yeah, unfortunately. The issue is that one of the upstream
> libraries we use doesn't have a release that supports Python 3.10 yet. We
> have all the build system etc. setup and ready to go, but until they put
> out a new release we're kinda stuck.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 10:01, toni incog <toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > Ok, then I give that a try, thx!
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 09:56, Dave Page <
> dave(dot)page(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 8:34 AM Aditya Toshniwal <
> aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:28 PM toni incog <
> toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > >>>
> >> >>>>> > >>> No easy way to fallback to python 3.9 in f35? 3.9 is
> installable fwiw
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >> I'm not aware of any. @Dave do you have any ?
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > > The F34 packages might work if you have 3.9 installed (I
> *think* the symlinks in our venv should still point to the correct
> locations in that case). There may be other things that don't work though.
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >>>
> >> >>>>> > >>>
> >> >>>>> > >>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 06:17, Aditya Toshniwal
> >> >>>>> > >>> <aditya(dot)toshniwal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > >>> >
> >> >>>>> > >>> > Hi Toni,
> >> >>>>> > >>> >
> >> >>>>> > >>> > All of the python packages used by pgAdmin are not yet
> available for 3.10. We're continuously testing pgAdmin on v3.10 to make it
> work.
> >> >>>>> > >>> > Once pgAdmin works on v3.10, F35 builds can be made
> available.
> >> >>>>> > >>> >
> >> >>>>> > >>> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 6:35 PM toni incog <
> toni(dot)incog(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > >>> >>
> >> >>>>> > >>> >> No yum repos for f35 yet. Using the 34 repos has
> troubles with f35
> >> >>>>> > >>> >> python3.10. Any fast solution for this? Is installing
> python3.9 an
> >> >>>>> > >>> >> option. I'm not familiar with this pyhton world but
> became dependend
> >> >>>>> > >>> >> on pgadmin4.
> >> >>>>> > >>> >>
> >> >>>>> > >>> >> thx
> >> >>>>> > >>> >>
> >> >>>>> > >>> >>
> >> >>>>> > >>> >
> >> >>>>> > >>> >
> >> >>>>> > >>> > --
> >> >>>>> > >>> > Thanks,
> >> >>>>> > >>> > Aditya Toshniwal
> >> >>>>> > >>> > pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
> >> >>>>> > >>> > "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >> --
> >> >>>>> > >> Thanks,
> >> >>>>> > >> Aditya Toshniwal
> >> >>>>> > >> pgAdmin Hacker | Software Architect | edbpostgres.com
> >> >>>>> > >> "Don't Complain about Heat, Plant a TREE"
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > > --
> >> >>>>> > > Dave Page
> >> >>>>> > > VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
> >> >>>>> > > Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
> >> >>>>> > > Twitter: @pgsnake
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > > EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Dave Page
> >> >>>> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
> >> >>>> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
> >> >>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Dave Page
> >> >> VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
> >> >> Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
> >> >> Twitter: @pgsnake
> >> >>
> >> >> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dave Page
> > VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
> > Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
> > Twitter: @pgsnake
> >
> > EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>

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VP, Chief Architect, Database Infrastructure
Blog: https://www.enterprisedb.com/dave-page
Twitter: @pgsnake

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