Re: pgAdmin v4.1 - positive feedback

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: "ldh(at)laurent-hasson(dot)com" <ldh(at)laurent-hasson(dot)com>
Cc: Mark Murawski <markm-lists(at)intellasoft(dot)net>, "pgadmin-support(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgadmin-support(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgAdmin v4.1 - positive feedback
Date: 2019-01-22 09:42:22
Message-ID: CA+OCxowxKn1bR65=urjR3P1jzxhhJTC9MmvjjbnZVHV4++MthA@mail.gmail.com
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Hi

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 3:55 AM ldh(at)laurent-hasson(dot)com <
ldh(at)laurent-hasson(dot)com> wrote:

> Let me join the chorus... To some degree, my complaints seem minor today
> compared to 1y ago, so it’s much improved. My organization made the move to
> Postgres 11, so I had no choice but to get re-acquainted with PGAdmin4
> since III doesn't work at all anymore.
>
> So here are some suggestions. I know, it's easy to make suggestions, and I
> wish I knew how to code the client-side so I could make some contribs, but
> I also think those suggestions may be fairly simple. Could you suggest some
> participation I could provide to help? Ticket, tracking, maybe doc?
>
> - One of the simplest features of PGAdmin III that I find myself missing
> EVERY DAY is simply the timer on the bottom right of the query window. When
> running queries, I often know how long they will take and so having that
> simple timer while the query runs is very useful 😊
>

Would having a timer display on the "Waiting for query to execute..." busy
screen work? You'd then see that whilst it was executing, followed by the
"Execution complete" notification (which includes the time), and of course
the time that's shown on the history panel.

>
> - Another simple feature is the ability to continue editing some queries
> while one query runs. I often manage multiple queries and on III, i would
> run one query while editing/fixing/preparing the next query in the same
> editor. I know I could open another editor but it's just not as convenient,
> and on the browser, no quick ALT-TAB.
>

Please log a feature request at
https://redmine.postgresql.org/projects/pgadmin4/issues/new. Restricting
the busy screen to the 4 output tabs doesn't seem like it would be too
hard. My main concern would be the UX of doing so.

You can switch between top level tabs with Alt/Option + Shift + [ and
Alt/Option + Shift + ] by default. That can be changed under File ->
Preferences -> Browser -> Keyboard Shortcuts.

>
> - More importantly, I find the backend still flaky. I am still
> experiencing frequent backend errors, or reaching a state where the whole
> front-end is broken. Short of going to the system tray and killing the
> backend server, there is no other way. I used to go to the Task Manager
> until I recently discover the "kill server" option on the tray. It'd be
> nice to have a menu option to "restart" the server from the browser UI and
> allow the UI to just survive a backend meltdown.
>

In what way is it flaky? It's been designed so that even when errors occur,
they typically only affect that operation (unlike pgAdmin 3 which would
just crash entirely). The whole architecture makes it inherently far more
robust against such issues. Please log tickets and provide logs showing any
errors, particularly un-recoverable ones.

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