Re: [pgAdmin4][Patch]: Allow user to cancel long running queries from dashboard

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io>
Cc: Chethana Kumar <chethana(dot)kumar(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Ashesh Vashi <ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Murtuza Zabuawala <murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Harshal Dhumal <harshal(dot)dhumal(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgAdmin4][Patch]: Allow user to cancel long running queries from dashboard
Date: 2017-08-30 21:17:27
Message-ID: CA+OCxowxBx4Etri2b2FRvkUPLAhXdbxus56onR-X-NbJ7i0ZOQ@mail.gmail.com
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It's a visual design update.

As for the actual dialogue; a wizard really isn't appropriate as the
typical workflow will be very inconsistent and often non-linear. I have no
idea how to improve it further, except through improving the visuals to
make it clearer. It's 100x easier to use than the pgAdmin 3 design though
:-)

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io> wrote:

> +1 to Rob. By the time a user drills into seeing column properties, she'll
> have gone through 5 layers of navigation. Is there another way to display
> this information so that it's not nested?
>
> If this is a visual design revamp that's a different conversation. What
> kind of feedback are you looking for?
>
> Shirley
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:57 AM Chethana Kumar <
> chethana(dot)kumar(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> I am sharing a improvised mockup in response to the below request that I
>> received for '*Table properties*' where we have multiple subgrid
>> controls with tabs.
>>
>> Please feel free to share your views on the same.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Chethana kumar
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Ashesh Vashi <
>> ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Chethana Kumar <
>>>> chethana(dot)kumar(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you comment on the new design update for subnode control ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached designs -
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. subnode_current.png - The existing view
>>>>> 2. subnode_new.png - The updated view
>>>>> 3. current_new.png - Existing and new design placed together for
>>>>> comparison purpose
>>>>>
>>>>> Below changes done -
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Reduced number of gray color variations
>>>>> 2. Made more simplified by removing unwanted borders
>>>>> 3. Merged "Arrow Down" background and the body background for more
>>>>> clarity
>>>>>
>>>>> Please feel free to provide your input on the same.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Much nicer in my opinion! Good work.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else have any comments?
>>>>
>>> It looks much nicer.
>>> I would like to see the effect on another dialogs like 'Table
>>> properties', where we have multiple level of subgrid controls with tabs.
>>>
>>> -- Thanks, Ashesh
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Chethana kumar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I took a quick look at this and have a couple of thoughts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Instead of the "edit" icon to open the subnode, we should use
>>>>>> something more appropriate - a "properties" icon perhaps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - There seems to be a lot of different shades of grey on there (maybe
>>>>>> a subnode design in general that just shows up with the disabled controls),
>>>>>> and the subnode control looks a bit messy as a result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you work with Chethana to improve the look and feel please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Input from others welcome of course - screenshot attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>>>>> murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ++ Attaching the patch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Murtuza Zabuawala
>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>>>>>> murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PFA patch to display additional information from pg_stat_activity
>>>>>>>> table using subnode control.
>>>>>>>> RM#2597
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please review.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Murtuza Zabuawala
>>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-3 days is a lot of valuable engineering time. Is this a 'drop
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything now' kind of feature or can this wait for some user validation
>>>>>>>>>>>> on a mock up first?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Most of the time will likely be on the infrastructure to change
>>>>>>>>>>> the display to a subnode control. If you have some cycles to mockup
>>>>>>>>>>> potential layouts for the subnode view and have them validated, please feel
>>>>>>>>>>> free, however, that seems like an awful lot of work to me to display some
>>>>>>>>>>> missing SQL using a standard control.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding SQL display: Developing simple control to show
>>>>>>>>>> codemirror in disabled state (for now) wont take that much time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Part of a product designer's job is to make sure there is a
>>>>>>>>> definitive need for a feature and that the interface for the feature is
>>>>>>>>> designed in such a way that the user gets all intended value from it. Time
>>>>>>>>> spent validating now will decrease the time spent later on redesigning /
>>>>>>>>> reimplementing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If everyone is aware of what that value is and confident that how
>>>>>>>>> it'll be displayed is right, there's little risk in starting to develop it.
>>>>>>>>> If we're wrong, it'll add to feature bloat and detract from the experience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would Chethana be able to take on some of the design work? It
>>>>>>>>> would be valuable for the dev team to also be part of design process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chethana Kumar
>>>>> Principal UI/UX Designer
>>>>> EnterpriseDB Corporation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Postgres Database Company
>>>>>
>>>>> P: +91 86981 57146 <+91%2086981%2057146>
>>>>> www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Page
>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>
>>>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Chethana Kumar
>> Principal UI/UX Designer
>> EnterpriseDB Corporation
>>
>>
>> The Postgres Database Company
>>
>> P: +91 86981 57146 <+91%2086981%2057146>
>> www.enterprisedb.com
>>
>

--
Dave Page
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Twitter: @pgsnake

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