Re: PG 15 downloads

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>, pgsql-release(at)postgresql(dot)org, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Christoph Berg <cb(at)df7cb(dot)de>, Sandeep Thakkar <sandeep(dot)thakkar(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: PG 15 downloads
Date: 2022-10-18 08:15:06
Message-ID: CA+OCxowNyCYjc1juWiioDrNSu5wjQXsx4=8JJxs_vWsKJm3Hww@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 at 17:18, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 at 16:51, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/17/22 11:48 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > On 2022-10-17 10:32:30 +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>>> >>> On 17 Oct 2022, at 10:29, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> A couple of possible solutions that spring to mind:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1) Jonathan (or whoever is handling the release process) could
>>> ensure those pages are updated as part of the release push, but that would
>>> require confirmation from Sandeep or someone on the EDB team that the
>>> packages have been published and everything looks good.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2) We could database-ise the data in those tables, and then Sandeep
>>> could update that through the Django admin interface at the appropriate
>>> time. He does have access to a limited part of the admin interface already.
>>> >>
>>> >> 3) EDB publish an API endpoint with the available releases that
>>> pg.org consumes
>>> >> and use to create the page?
>>> >
>>> > Could these tables be updated well ahead of time and PG $next just be
>>> hidden
>>> > until the release based on the version number?
>>>
>>> Yes, but the suggested JSON file approach accomplishes something
>>> similar, and is a pattern we already have for some of the other package
>>> repos.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah - the problem is that I no longer manage the folks responsible for
>> our website (and neither does Sandeep). EDB is rapidly approaching 1000
>> people, and that complicates this sort of thing somewhat. I do know some
>> of the team though, and will see if I can whisper in the right ears.
>>
>>
> Regardless of who is managing them, surely the person in charge of it
> should be on this list to be able to answer questions etc.
>

You're suggesting the person in charge of the EDB website should be on this
mailing list on the off-chance we decide to have a discussion about adding
an API or file to the EDB site? That seems excessive, given this or
anything like it has happened once in 15+ years.

> And I'm sure they have the technical skills to publish a json file even
> without your oversight :)
>

Of course they do. The question is one of prioritising the work, which
unless it's an issue with the download pages not working etc. I have very
little sway over.

As a side-note, I don't want a manually maintained JSON file. That won't
actually help at all, as it would mean one of the site devs would need to
get involved with releases, whereas right now it can be done by one of the
content team as the download page itself is database-backed. What makes a
lot more sense is to have the JSON file be automatically (or on-demand)
generated from that database, which would only require a one-off effort
from the devs.

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Dave Page
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