From: | Ants Aasma <ants(dot)aasma(at)eesti(dot)ee> |
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To: | Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Ivan Kartyshov <i(dot)kartyshov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: make async slave to wait for lsn to be replayed |
Date: | 2017-09-26 10:00:23 |
Message-ID: | CA+CSw_toPboeJWkJce0foZdGcQeOHHbubYMO2dCPYmOoE=28oQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> On 22 March 2017 at 01:17, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Thomas Munro
>> <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>> > Maybe someone can think of a clever way for an extension to insert a
>> > wait for a user-supplied LSN *before* acquiring a snapshot so it can
>> > work for the higher levels, or maybe the hooks should go into core
>> > PostgreSQL so that the extension can exist as an external project not
>> > requiring a patched PostgreSQL installation, or maybe this should be
>> > done with new core syntax that extends transaction commands. Do other
>> > people have views on this?
>>
>> IMHO, trying to do this using a function-based interface is a really
>> bad idea for exactly the reasons you mention. I don't see why we'd
>> resist the idea of core syntax here; transactions are a core part of
>> PostgreSQL.
>>
>> There is, of course, the question of whether making LSNs such a
>> user-visible thing is a good idea in the first place, but that's a
>> separate question from issue of what syntax for such a thing is best.
>
>
> (I know this is old, but):
>
> That ship sailed a long time ago unfortunately, they're all over
> pg_stat_replication and pg_replication_slots and so on. They're already
> routinely used for monitoring replication lag in bytes, waiting for a peer
> to catch up, etc.
(continuing the trend of resurrecting old topics)
Exposing this interface as WAITLSN will encode that visibility order
matches LSN order. This removes any chance of fixing for example
visibility order of async/vs/sync transactions. Just renaming it so
the token is an opaque commit visibility token that just happens to be
a LSN would still allow for progress in transaction management. For
example, making PostgreSQL distributed will likely want timestamp
and/or vector clock based visibility rules.
Regards,
Ants Aasma
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