Re: subselects vs WITH in views

From: Seref Arikan <serefarikan(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Joe Van Dyk <joe(at)tanga(dot)com>, Albe Laurenz <laurenz(dot)albe(at)wien(dot)gv(dot)at>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: subselects vs WITH in views
Date: 2013-02-21 10:31:46
Message-ID: CA+4Thdq8xcbnBsMpzzyQ2ND_OmXicyYXOiyEWTbcCMvYX4nvtw@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Merlin,
So should I interpret this as: there is a potential gain from choosing
subqueries over with WITHs ?

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Joe Van Dyk <joe(at)tanga(dot)com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Albe Laurenz <laurenz(dot)albe(at)wien(dot)gv(dot)at>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Joe Van Dyk wrote:
> >> > My assumption was that WITH acted just like subselects, but apparently
> >> > they don't? Using WITH doesn't
> >> > use the expected index.
> >>
> >> Currently WITH acts as an "optimization fence", that means
> >> that means that the planner won't move conditions into or
> >> out of the WITH query.
> >
> >
> > Where's the best place to read up on this?
>
> Unfortunately, the mailing list archives. Rightly or wrongly,
> postgresql docs are exceptionally light in terms of performance
> aspects of various SQL mechanisms.
>
> (non-data modifying) WITH is basically formalization of technique: A
> extract to temp table B query that table. Not the optimization fence
> characteristic is an implementation detail and not future proofed but
> is nevertheless widely replied upon.
>
> merlin
>
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