Re: Code of Conduct plan

From: Christophe Pettus <xof(at)thebuild(dot)com>
To: Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz>
Cc: "pgsql-generallists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct plan
Date: 2018-06-08 05:09:02
Message-ID: C01D9E47-53E8-4AEB-8089-8017DD5F39E7@thebuild.com
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> On Jun 7, 2018, at 21:00, Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz> wrote:
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>> I have to say that this seems like a red herring to me.
> Not entirely. American web sites tend to insist on weird date format, and insist on the archaic imperial units rather than the metric system that most people in the world use.

Then you will be pleased to know that neither writing dates day-of-month first, nor using meters, will be Code of Conduct violations. :)

> For example try defining something simple, like what is a car!
[...]
>
> Try defining success at university

It is equally unlikely that the Code of Conduct committee will need to decide what a car is, or whether or not someone has succeeded at university.

I'm not trying to be snide, but this does seem to be exactly what I was talking about: When asked for examples of cultural differences that might run afoul of the CoC, the examples don't seem to be either relevant (i.e., they are not things the CoC committee will have to address), or are clearly contextual in a way that a human will have no trouble understanding.

> I've called a friend of mine a bastard, but he took it as a mark of respect in the context of our discussion.

This is why we have human beings, rather than a regex, forming the Code of Conduct committee. It's important to remember that the CoC committee is not going to be going around policing the community for potential violations; their job is to resolve actual situations between real people. It's not their job to define values; it's their job to resolve situations. In my experience in dealing with CoC issues, the situations (while often complex) are rarely of the form, "This word does not mean anything bad where I come from."

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