Re: branching for 9.2devel

From: Steve Singer <ssinger_pg(at)sympatico(dot)ca>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: branching for 9.2devel
Date: 2011-04-25 20:29:04
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On 11-04-25 03:40 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> At the risk of getting a bit cranky, you haven't participated in a
> material way in any CommitFest we've had in well over a year. AFAICS,
> the first, last, and only time you are listed in the CommitFest
> application is as co-reviewer of a patch in July 2009, which means
> that the last time you really had a major roll in this process was
> during the 8.4 cycle. So I'm really rather suspicious that you know
> what's wrong with the process and how to fix it better than the people
> who are involved currently. I think we need here is more input from
> the people who are regularly submitting and reviewing patches, and
> those who have tried recently but been turned off by some aspect of
> the process.
>

I reviewed a handful of patches during commitfests during the 9.1
release. I think a commitfest lasting one week will make me review
fewer patches not more. At the start of a commitfest I would
volunteer to review a single patch knowing that it wouldn't be hard to
find 4-6 hours to review the patch during the next few weeks. Once I
was done with the first patch when I thought I'd have sometime in the
next few days to review another patch I would pick another one off the
list. At the start of the commitfest I wasn't concerned about picking
up a patch because I knew I had lots of time to get to it. Near the end
of the last commitfest I wasn't concerned about picking up an unassigned
patch because there were so many patches people picked up earlier on in
the commitfest waiting for review that I didn't think I'd get pressured
on a patch I had only picked up a day or two ago. If I knew I was
expected to turn a review around in a short window I think I would only
pick up a patch if I was 90% sure I'd have time to get to it during the
week. I sometimes can spend $work time on reviewing patches but I can
rarely block time off or schedule when that will be, and the same
somewhat applies to the patch reviews I do on my own time (postgresql
stuff comes after other commitments).

It is easy to say four weeks in a row "I won't have time to review one
patch this week" it is harder to say "I won't have time to review a
single patch in the next month"

I also should add that sometimes I'd review a patch and the only issue
from the review might be "is this really how we want the thing to
work?" and the commitfest app doesn't have a good state for this. If
patch needs feedback or a decision from the community and it sometimes
isn't clear when enough silence or +1's justify moving it to a committer
or bouncing the patch to be reworked.

Steve

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