From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: patch for new feature: Buffer Cache Hibernation |
Date: | 2011-05-15 18:19:34 |
Message-ID: | BANLkTim_4-3t0vMVxXF5esu9_C_UhoEvfQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> I think that all the complexity with CRCs etc. is unlikely to lead anywhere
> too, and those two issues are not completely unrelated. The simplest,
> safest thing here is the right way to approach this, not the most
> complicated one, and a simpler format might add some flexibility here to
> reload more cache state too. The bottleneck on reloading the cache state is
> reading everything from disk. Trying to micro-optimize any other part of
> that is moving in the wrong direction to me. I doubt you'll ever measure a
> useful benefit that overcomes the expense of maintaining the code. And you
> seem to be moving to where someone can't restore cache state when they
> change shared_buffers. A simpler implementation might still work in that
> situation; reload until you run out of buffers if shared_buffers shrinks,
> reload until you're done with the original size.
I don't think there's any need for this to get data into
shared_buffers at all. Getting it into the OS cache oughta be plenty
sufficient, no?
ISTM that a very simple approach here would be to save the contents of
each shared buffer on clean shutdown, and to POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED those
buffers on startup. We could worry about additional complexity, like
using fincore to probe the OS cache, in a follow-on patch. While
reloading only 8GB of maybe 30GB of cached data on restart would not
be as good as reloading all of it, it would be a lot better than
reloading none of it, and the gymnastics required seems substantially
less.
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Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
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