Re: You're on SecurityFocus.com for the cleartext passwords.

From: Benjamin Adida <ben(at)mit(dot)edu>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Benjamin Adida <ben(at)mit(dot)edu>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, Vince Vielhaber <vev(at)michvhf(dot)com>, The Hermit Hacker <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, "Sverre H(dot) Huseby" <sverrehu(at)online(dot)no>, <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: You're on SecurityFocus.com for the cleartext passwords.
Date: 2000-05-06 18:32:24
Message-ID: B539DD77.3719%ben@mit.edu
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on 5/6/00 2:29 PM, Tom Lane at tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us wrote:

> How so? The server sends out one fixed salt (the one stored for that
> user's password in pg_shadow) and one randomly-chosen salt. The client
> sends back two crypted passwords. The server can check one of them.
> What can it do with the other? Nothing that I can see, so where is the
> security gain? A sniffer can still get in by sending back the same
> pair of crypted passwords next time, no matter what random salt is
> presented.

Okay, my understanding was that the protocol would work as follows:

- client requests login
- server sends stored salt c1, and random salt c2.
- client performs hash_c2(hash_c1(password)) and sends result to server.
- server performs hash_c2(stored_pg_shadow) and compares with client
submission.
- if there's a match, there's successful login.

This protocol will truly create a challenge-response where the communication
is different at each login, and where sniffing one
hash_c2(hash_c1(password)) doesn't give you any way to log in with a
different c2.

-Ben

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