Re: Link to zip/tar binaries web page

From: Cédric Villemain <cedric(dot)villemain(dot)debian(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Link to zip/tar binaries web page
Date: 2011-01-27 19:13:31
Message-ID: AANLkTimZnh4pN=2pULke62o6VYkJBec3sXnDFqTHRs6g@mail.gmail.com
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2011/1/27 Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 15:21, Cédric Villemain
> <cedric(dot)villemain(dot)debian(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> 2011/1/21 Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>:
>>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 18:15, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
>>>> I have just learned that EnterpriseDB provides both platform-specific
>>>> binaries and platform-specific zip/tar files, which are hosted here:
>>>>
>>>>        http://www.enterprisedb.com/products-services-training/pgbindownload
>>>>
>>>> We link to that page from our Windows download page:
>>>>
>>>>        http://www.postgresql.org/download/windows
>>>>
>>>>        Advanced users can also download a zip archive of the binaries,
>>>>        without the installer.
>>>>
>>>> but not from any of the other platform web page, like Linux:
>>>>
>>>>        http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux
>>>>
>>>> That seems inconsistent, and I had to help someone yesterday who was
>>>> looking for the Linux tar file.
>>>>
>>>> Should we make a change to have these be more consistent?
>>>
>>> I guess we could. Did you run across this by accident, or did somebody
>>> actually ask you? I havent' heard a single person *ever* ask for
>>> binaries-no-installer for Linux - given that you already have the
>>> choice of a proper platform package, or a gui installer, or source
>>> (which is much easier to work with on Linux than on Windows, making it
>>> a much more reasonable option)
>>>
>>> There are already painfully many options on that download page...
>>
>> Yes, it is several times that we face issues from end-users about our
>> different download pages/options/links.
>> May we consider reworking this area of the website for 9.1 ?
>
> Yes, certainly.
>
> Patches welcome.

:/

>
> But there's no point in even trying unless you first review the
> multiple discussoins that have been around just that in the past two
> years or so.

I have probably miss most of them, still I remember some too. Anyway,
I didn't expect to start a new long thread on the topic and make every
body loose time with that again. Sorry for the noise.

>
> Can it be improved? Most definitely. But you have to remember that
> someone like you is *not* the target audience for that page - you
> probably know the URL to your nearest ftp mirror from memory anyway
> (if not, what kind of postgresql consultant *are* you?!).

Fortunately, I use git archive :-D
I have no idea on what is the URI of the tarballs.
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Cédric Villemain               2ndQuadrant
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