Re: Latches with weak memory ordering (Re: max_wal_senders must die)

From: Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(at)highrise(dot)ca>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Latches with weak memory ordering (Re: max_wal_senders must die)
Date: 2010-11-19 14:35:44
Message-ID: AANLkTimPLKarL3OjCRvV7azqTyimB0Wg7gHcau+q1w9v@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

>> Just a small point of clarification - you need to have both that
>> unknown archtecture, and that architecture has to have postgres
>> process running simultaneously on difference CPUs with different
>> caches that are incoherent to have those problems.
>
> Sure you do.  But so what?  Are you going to compile PostgreSQL and
> implement TAS as a simple store and read-fence as a simple load?  How
> likely is that to work out well?

If I was trying to "port" PostgreSQL to some strange architecture, and
my strange architecture didtt' have all the normal TAS and memory
bariers stuff because it was only a UP system with no cache, then yes,
and it would work out well ;-)

If it was some strange SMP architecture, I wouldn't expect *anything*
to work out well if the architecture doesn't have some sort of
TAS/memory barrier/cache-coherency stuff in it ;-)

a.

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