Re: warning message in standby

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: warning message in standby
Date: 2010-06-14 11:18:06
Message-ID: AANLkTilZ22GdcBWMYVHh4nS0TGHvaIEV6oF1WF1cl9Gn@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 13:11, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> >> Seems like we need something like WARNING that doesn't cause the process
>> >> to die, but more alarming like ERROR/FATAL/PANIC. Or maybe just adding a
>> >> hint to the warning will do. How about
>> >>
>> >> WARNING: ?invalid record length at 0/4005330
>> >> HINT: An invalid record was streamed from master. That can be a sign of
>> >> corruption in the master, or inconsistency between master and standby
>> >> state. The record will be re-fetched, but that is unlikely to fix the
>> >> problem. You may have to restore standby from base backup.
>> >
>> > I am thinking about log monitoring tools like Nagios. ?I am afraid
>> > they are never going to pick up something tagged WARNING, no matter
>>
>> If they are properly configured, I imagine they would. And if they're
>> not, well, there's not much for us to do.
>
> What does that mean?

It means that we can't prevent people from configuring their tools to
ignore important warning. We can't prevent them rom ignoring ERROR or
FATAL either...

>> (What would be more usful then would be to separate "user-warnings"
>> like warnings about cast from actual system-warnings like this, but
>> that's a whole different story)
>>
>> > what the wording is. ?Crazy idea, but can we force a fatal error line
>> > into the logs with something like "WARNING ...\nFATAL: ...".
>>
>> That's way too crazy :P And btw, randomly sticking newlines into that
>> will mess up *most* log displayers and I bet a lot of the log
>> monitoring tools as well...
>
> Yeah, it would mess up CSV log output, for example?

Possibly. And your general syslog output would become pretty hard to
read once this kind of stuff shows up.

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Magnus Hagander
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