Re: dynamically allocating chunks from shared memory

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Markus Wanner <markus(at)bluegap(dot)ch>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: dynamically allocating chunks from shared memory
Date: 2010-08-10 01:29:27
Message-ID: AANLkTi=z0dHD2C-OqqnOx9Xz1Bqt+ca4ss9TJGA-d+m5@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>> Particular implementations might cope with such cases in useful ways, or
>>> then again they might not.
>> That doesn't seem like a big problem to me.  I was assuming we'd need
>> to remap when the size changed.
> Well, as long as you can do that, sure.  I'm concerned about what
> happens if/when remapping fails (not at all unlikely in 32-bit address
> spaces in particular).  You mentioned that that would probably have to
> be a PANIC condition, which I think I agree with; and that idea pretty
> much kills any argument that this would be a good way to improve server
> uptime.

In some cases, you might be able to get by with FATAL. Still, it's
easier to imagine using this in cases for things like resizing
shared_buffers (where the alternative is to restart the server anyway)
than it is to use it for routine memory allocation.

> Another issue is that if you're doing dynamic remapping you almost
> certainly can't assume that the segment will appear at the same
> addresses in every backend.  We could live with that for shared buffers
> without too much pain, but not so much for most other shared
> datastructures.

Hmm.

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Robert Haas
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