Re: 2nd Level Buffer Cache

From: Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Gurjeet Singh <singh(dot)gurjeet(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>, rsmogura <rsmogura(at)softperience(dot)eu>, PG Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: 2nd Level Buffer Cache
Date: 2011-03-26 22:01:46
Message-ID: AANLkTi=3Ar8JPzSwhQWS6u61WaHWSNJUXO5FQ8a+fGgM@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Gurjeet Singh <singh(dot)gurjeet(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A related area that could use some looking at is why performance tops
>> >> out at shared_buffers ~8GB and starts to fall thereafter.
>> >
>> > Under what circumstances does this happen?  Can a simple pgbench -S
>> > with a large scaling factor elicit this behavior?
>>
>> To be honest, I'm mostly just reporting what I've heard Greg Smith say
>> on this topic.   I don't have any machine with that kind of RAM.
>
> I can sponsor a few hours (say 10) of one High-memory on-demand Quadruple
> Extra Large instance (26 EC2 Compute Units (8 virtual cores with 3.25 EC2
> Compute Units each), 1690 GB of local instance storage, 64-bit platform).
> That's the largest memory AWS has.

Does AWS have machines with battery-backed write cache? I think
people running servers with 192G probably have BBWC, so it may be hard
to do realistic tests without also having one on the test machine.

But probably a bigger problem is that (to the best of my knowledge) we
don't seem to have a non-proprietary, generally implementable
benchmark system or load-generator which is known to demonstrate the
problem.

Cheers,

Jeff

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