Re: Why we lost Uber as a user

From: Hannu Krosing <hkrosing(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Why we lost Uber as a user
Date: 2016-08-01 12:31:09
Message-ID: 9dfc4e1f-05dd-8067-5306-3a1273b31590@2ndQuadrant.com
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On 07/27/2016 12:07 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>
>> 4. Now, update that small table 500 times per second.
>> That's a recipe for runaway table bloat; VACUUM can't do much because
>> there's always some minutes-old transaction hanging around (and SNAPSHOT
>> TOO OLD doesn't really help, we're talking about minutes here), and
>> because of all of the indexes HOT isn't effective.
> Hm, I'm not following why this is a disaster. OK, you have circa 100%
> turnover of the table in the lifespan of the slower transactions, but I'd
> still expect vacuuming to be able to hold the bloat to some small integer
> multiple of the minimum possible table size. (And if the table is small,
> that's still small.) I suppose really long transactions (pg_dump?) could
> be pretty disastrous, but there are ways around that, like doing pg_dump
> on a slave.
Is there any theoretical obstacle which would make it impossible to
teach VACUUM not to hold back the whole vacuum horizon, but just
to leave a single transaction alone in case of a long-running
REPEATABLE READ transaction ?

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Hannu Krosing
PostgreSQL Consultant
Performance, Scalability and High Availability
2ndQuadrant Nordic Ltd

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