Re: Missing docs on AT TIME ZONE precedence?

From: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Shay Rojansky <roji(at)roji(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Missing docs on AT TIME ZONE precedence?
Date: 2023-11-27 21:09:10
Message-ID: 9df52975-686d-c945-36bd-559c930f2dc7@dunslane.net
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On 2023-11-27 Mo 15:34, Tom Lane wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> writes:
>> (TBH I don't think the added comments really explain the problems fully.
>> That's most likely because I don't actually understand what the problems
>> are.)
> The actual problem is that nobody has applied a cluestick to the SQL
> committee about writing an unambiguous grammar :-(. But I digress.
>
> I don't like the existing coding for more reasons than just
> underdocumentation. Global assignment of precedence is a really,
> really dangerous tool for solving ambiguous-grammar problems, because
> it can mask problems unrelated to the one you think you are solving:
> basically, it eliminates bison's complaints about grammar ambiguities
> related to the token you mark. (Commits 12b716457 and 28a61fc6c are
> relevant here.) Attaching precedence to individual productions is
> far safer, because it won't have any effect that extends beyond that
> production. You still need a precedence attached to the lookahead
> token; but I think we should try very hard to not assign a precedence
> different from IDENT's to any unreserved keywords.
>
> After a bit of fooling around I found a patch that seems to meet
> that criterion; attached.
>
>

Looks good. Perhaps the comments above the UNBOUNDED precedence setting
(esp. the first paragraph) need strengthening, with a stern injunction
to avoid different precedence for non-reserved keywords if at all possible.

cheers

andrew

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