Re: From a real novice

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rod Kreisler [mailto:rod(at)23net(dot)net]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:13 PM
> To: Tamir Halperin; Josh Berkus; pgsql-novice(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: RE: [NOVICE] From a real novice
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> At 02:04 PM 3/24/2003 -0500, Tamir Halperin wrote:
> >Thanks for the insite, Rod.
>
> NP.
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> > >
> > > Tamir, when installed via ports, a startup script that
> needs minimal
> > > editing will be placed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d
> >
> >My problem is that I can't get postgresql to install via the
> ports because
> >it wants openssl to be installed. However, I succesfully
> installed openssl
> >so I don't know where to go from here. It's not like I'm
> going to find a
> >chapter in the handbook that describes what to do when an
> installation
> >fails due to a dependancy on another package that is fully installed.
>
> How did you install openSSL? The port system tracks dependencies and
> should've installed openSSL for you.

I installed OpenSSL via ports and without a hitch. But, should I see something that refers to openssl when I execute TOP? If so, then I don't and something is not right.

Also, and I'll paste this from another email I received on a different list,
DM> Aha. This seems to be a fault in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk around line 930
DM>
DM> .if defined(USE_OPENSSL)
DM> .if ${OSVERSION} >= 400014
DM> .if !exists(/usr/lib/libcrypto.so)
DM> .BEGIN:
DM> @${ECHO_CMD} "This port requires the OpenSSL library, which is part of"
DM> @${ECHO_CMD} "the FreeBSD crypto distribution but not installed on your"
DM>
DM> You may try to play with symlinks, but I suppose more natural way is to upgrade
DM> your system to at least 4.6 security branch and install OpenSSL from base
DM> system.
DM>
DM> The last note: you can also re-install openssl port (pkg_delete previous
DM> installation first) within base:
DM>
DM> cd /usr/ports/security/openssl
DM> make OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes
DM> make install

and to which I replied:

TH> After following your instructions regarding the deinstallation of the openssl package and then reinstalling it with make
TH> OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes, I still get the same message when executing make in the /usr/ports/databases/postgresql7
TH> directory that tells me I need to first install openssl.
TH>
TH> Here's the output of ldconfig -r | grep crypt:
TH>
TH> 1:-lcrypt.2 => /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2
TH> 110:-lcrypto.2 => /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.2
TH> 111:-lcrypto.3 => /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.3
TH> 117:-lmcrypt.8 => /usr/local/lib/libmcrypt.so.8
TH>
TH> I'm sure there's a solution to using postgresql 7.3.2 with openssl. I just don't have it.

> >The issue of upgrading the system came up when someone
> suggested that I
> >don't have crypto installed and that I shouldn't try to mess
> with 4.6 any
> >longer but rather just upgrade to 4.7 or 4.8 (as of today, I
> believe).
> >
> >Then came the issue of how to do that. I have read page
> after page of
> >information on how to upgrade and there's just nothing out
> there that I
> >can make enough sense of.
> >
> >Some people learn a lot better by example rather than by
> formula. I'm one
> >of them. But it appears the entire UNIX community started
> out with people
> >who's brains not only understood formulas easily but even
> liked to build
> >systems and document them in heavily formulaic fashions. My
> challenge.
> >
> >So this is why I thought it would be useful to submit such
> questions to
> >the novice list. What I'm really looking for, I suppose, is
> someone who's
> >willing to spend some time communicating things by example.
> Unfortunately,
> >I have no budget for a high priced consultant at this point.
> An equity
> >partner in a very lucrative project yes! But not a payed consultant.

After reading what I wrote it sounds like I was slammin you guys for being unhelpful. Not my aim at all.

> I shouldn't imagine it would take too long for a skilled
> person to take
> care of this for you -- a day at most, and could be done
> remotely if you
> were available to be with the server at critical times. What
> other apps do
> you have installed?
>
>
> > > Tamir, You can write a supfile that will only upgrade
> certain ports.
> >
> >Really? I thought you can only fine tune it down to the
> ports category
> >level of granularity.
>
> True, that's what I meant. But I don't see why it's an
> issue. CVSUP on
> databases should only take a few minutes even on a slow dial-up --
> depending on how long it's been since you've CVSUP'd

I just did an entire cvsup on my whole supfile. It took about 25 minutes because it was in fact a long time since I did it last. I'm attaching my list of packages.

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