| From: | ocie(at)paracel(dot)com |
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| To: | dg(at)illustra(dot)com (David Gould) |
| Cc: | maillist(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us, scrappy(at)hub(dot)org, chris(at)topdog(dot)pas1(dot)logicon(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org |
| Subject: | Re: [HACKERS] Re: [QUESTIONS] Does Storage Manager support >2GB tables? |
| Date: | 1998-03-12 22:57:35 |
| Message-ID: | 9803122257.AA29650@dolomite.paracel.com |
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David Gould wrote:
>
> Bruce Momjian writes:
> > I am adding this to the TODO list:
> >
> > * Do async I/O to do better read-ahead of data
>
> Good.
>
> > Because we are not threaded, we really can't do anything else while we
> > are waiting for I/O, but we can pre-request data we know we will need.
>
> Threading is a bit like raw devices. It sounds like a really good idea,
> particularly with M$ banging the "NT, now with threads" drum, but in real
> life there are some very good reasons not to thread. Particularly with an
> extensible product like Postgres where J-Random routine gets loaded at
> runtime. In a threaded system, J-Random routine needs to be pretty well
> perfect or the whole system comes down. In a process based system, unless
> it trashes something in the shared memory, only the one connection instance
> needs to come down. My experience with Illustra says that this is fairly
> important.
I tend to agree. I think threads are more usefull in applications
software, where the programmer has at least some idea of the use of
the program.
On a more practical/implementation note, it might be nice to have one
process that can perform prefetches for the others. I.E. If I know
that I will need page X, I queue a request to this process (in shared
memory?) and it will read in this page for us (or even write a page to
disk for us).
Asynchronous I/O is interesting, but I don't know how widely it has
been implemented (Linux has none, unless the development version is
working on it, and Solaris has aio, but not the POSIX flavor yet).
Ocie Mitchell
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