Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [GENERAL] DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?

From: Csaba Nagy <nagy(at)domeus(dot)de>
To: "'pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org'" <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [GENERAL] DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?
Date: 2002-12-06 09:40:26
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I'm not the one who is affected, one of my colleagues is developing the DB
visualizer in his spare time, but he's not using Postgres (he's Oracle dba).
I was just thinking he's application could be used with Postgres too, as it
is a Java app based on JDBC.
I will forward him this answer, see what he has to say :-)
For the null catalog issue I have no idea if it makes sense, but I can say
that a table can reference itself, this one makes perfect sense.
E.g.:

CREATE TABLE employees (
empid bigint,
boss bigint references employees(empid)
... (other employee data)
);

Thanks,
Csaba.

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: pgsql-jdbc-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
[mailto:pgsql-jdbc-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]Im Auftrag von Justin Clift
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 03:40
An: Csaba Nagy
Cc: 'Adam Witney'; Dave Cramer; pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org
Betreff: [Fwd: Re: [JDBC] [Fwd: Re: [GENERAL] DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?]]

Hi Csaba,

Is this helpful?

:-)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [JDBC] [Fwd: Re: [GENERAL] DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?]
Date: 05 Dec 2002 20:25:40 -0500
From: Dave Cramer <davec(at)fastcrypt(dot)com>
Organization: Cramer Consulting
To: Justin Clift <justin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
CC: pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
References: <3DEFD237(dot)7030804(at)postgresql(dot)org>

Justin,

This is from the spec.

primaryCatalog - a catalog name; "" retrieves those without a
catalog; null means drop catalog name from the selection
criteria
primarySchema - a schema name; "" retrieves those without a
schema
primaryTable - the table name that exports the key
foreignCatalog - a catalog name; "" retrieves those without a
catalog; null means drop catalog name from the selection
criteria
foreignSchema - a schema name; "" retrieves those without a
schema
foreignTable - the table name that imports the key

No where do I see primary table can be null, or foreign table
can be null and what cross reference would there be if
primary=foreign?

Dave

On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 17:24, Justin Clift wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Has this been forwarded here yet? Csaba is reporting what looks to be a
> bug in the JDBC driver.
>
>:-(
>
> Regards and best wishes,
>
> Justin Clift
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:26:38 +0100
> From: Csaba Nagy <nagy(at)domeus(dot)de>
> To: 'Adam Witney' <awitney(at)sghms(dot)ac(dot)uk>, 'Francois Suter'
<dba(at)paragraf(dot)ch>
> CC: 'pgsql-general' <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>
> If you want to try out something new (and possibly buggy), take a look at
> this:
> http://dprutean.tripod.com/
> You can arrange your layout and save it and more, all of this through
a web
> interface, and the data is saved in plain XML... quite amazing.
> I've got it working with Oracle, but I couldn't do schema import from
> Postgres, it hangs for some reason.
>
> The author says it's a Postgres JDBC bug, looks like the
> java.sql.DatabaseMetaData#getCrossReference(String primaryCatalog, String
> primarySchema, String primaryTable, String foreignCatalog, String
> foreignSchema, String foreignTable) method hangs in any of the following
> situations:
> a) primaryTable is null;
> b) foreignTable is null;
> c) primaryTable == foreignTable;
> The author sais these inputs are valid according to the JDBC spec.
>
> Cheers,
> Csaba.
>
> le si foreignTable acceeasi valoare ( ca si cum ai vrea sa vezi daca o
> tabela se autoreferentiaza ).
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
> [mailto:pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]Im Auftrag von Adam Witney
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 11:40
> An: Francois Suter
> Cc: pgsql-general
> Betreff: Re: [GENERAL] DbVisualizer and PG 7.3?
>
>
> On 5/12/02 10:35 am, "Francois Suter" <dba(at)paragraf(dot)ch> wrote:
>
> >> One problem I had with this was that if you arrange your tables
around
> the
> >> screen then you couldn't save that 'view' of the tables and so
when you
> >> opened up the program again all the tables were back organised in one
> line
> >> or in one column. Otherwise it looked a really nice tool.
> >
> > True. That's an annoying limitation. And it doesn't seem like the
paying
> > version addresses that. Maybe we can suggest it for their TODO list if
> it's
> > not already there :-)
>
> Yes, I spoke to them about it and they said it was planned for a future
> version, but they did not know which future version!!
>
>
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