Re: Upgrade to dual processor machine?

No, I did not try a portscan. But speaking for myself: I would feel
unconfortable to publish the internet accessible IP address of a database
machine. Uff.

Cheers,
Csaba.

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[mailto:pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]Im Auftrag von Henrik Steffen
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. November 2002 14:46
An: Csaba Nagy
Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Betreff: Re: [GENERAL] Upgrade to dual processor machine?

did you also try a portscan?

the server IS behind a firewall and very well protected.
there's just the ping allowed, nothing else...

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Csaba Nagy" <nagy(at)domeus(dot)de>
To: "'Henrik Steffen'" <steffen(at)city-map(dot)de>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:46 PM
Subject: AW: [GENERAL] Upgrade to dual processor machine?

Your database's IP address can be pinged from the internet... is this
deliberate ? The database should be behind your firewall.
You just published the IP to the Postgres list... don't keep sensitive data
there I would say.

PING wird ausgeführt für db2.city-map.de [62.116.172.165] mit 32 Bytes
Daten:

Antwort von 62.116.172.165: Bytes=32 Zeit=31ms TTL=242
Antwort von 62.116.172.165: Bytes=32 Zeit=10ms TTL=242
Antwort von 62.116.172.165: Bytes=32 Zeit=10ms TTL=242
Antwort von 62.116.172.165: Bytes=32 Zeit=20ms TTL=242

PING wird ausgeführt für www.city-map.de [62.116.172.170] mit 32 Bytes
Daten:

Antwort von 62.116.172.170: Bytes=32 Zeit=20ms TTL=242
Antwort von 62.116.172.170: Bytes=32 Zeit=20ms TTL=242
Antwort von 62.116.172.170: Bytes=32 Zeit=21ms TTL=242
Antwort von 62.116.172.170: Bytes=32 Zeit=10ms TTL=242

Cheers,
Csaba.

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[mailto:pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]Im Auftrag von Henrik Steffen
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. November 2002 11:55
An: shridhar_daithankar(at)persistent(dot)co(dot)in
Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Betreff: Re: [GENERAL] Upgrade to dual processor machine?

Dear Shridhar,

ok, so my system has got 362 MB of free RAM currently... this sounds good.

uname -a says:
Linux db2.city-map.de 2.4.7-10 #1 Thu Sep 6 17:27:27 EDT 2001 i686 unknown

I didn't actually measure requests per minute through a longer period...
I tested it 2 hours ago using debug and logging all queries, and I saw
approx. 2500 requests per minute. but at that time of the day there are
only about 25 simultaneous users on our website. so i calculated 50
users and 5.000 rpm for average daytime usage. I guess the maximum peak
would be approx. 10.000 queries per minute.

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Henrik Steffen
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shridhar Daithankar" <shridhar_daithankar(at)persistent(dot)co(dot)in>
To: <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Upgrade to dual processor machine?

> On 13 Nov 2002 at 10:42, Henrik Steffen wrote:
> > > Yes. 2*max connection is minimum. Anything additional is always
welcome as long
> > > as it does not starve the system.
> >
> > ok, I tried to set shared_buffers to 65535 now. but then restarting
postgres
> > fails - it says:
> >
> > IpcMemoryCreate: shmget(key=5432001, size=545333248, 03600) failed:
Invalid argument
> >
> > and a message telling me to either lower the shared_buffers or raise the
> > SHMMAX.
>
> Yes. you need to raise SHMMAX. A good feature of recent linux distro. is
that
> they set SHMMAX to half of physical memory. A very good default IMO..
>
> > 11:06am up 1 day, 16:46, 1 user, load average: 1,32, 1,12, 1,22
> > 53 processes: 52 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> > CPU states: 24,5% user, 11,2% system, 0,0% nice, 5,6% idle
> > Mem: 1020808K av, 1006156K used, 14652K free, 8520K shrd, 37204K
buff
> > Swap: 1028112K av, 60K used, 1028052K free 849776K
cached
> > I have now changed the SHMMAX settings to 545333248 and changed the
> > shared_buffers to 65535 again. now postgres starts up correctly.
> >
> > the top result changes to:
> >
> > 11:40am up 1 day, 17:20, 1 user, load average: 2,24, 2,51, 2,14
> > 57 processes: 55 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> > CPU states: 24,7% user, 11,3% system, 0,0% nice, 6,2% idle
> > Mem: 1020808K av, 1015844K used, 4964K free, 531420K shrd, 24796K
buff
> > Swap: 1028112K av, 60K used, 1028052K free 338376K
cached
> > now, does this look better in your eyes?
>
> Well, don't look at top to find out free memoy. Use free. On my machine..
>
> [shridhar(at)perth shridhar]$ free
> total used free shared buffers cached
> Mem: 255828 250676 5152 0 66564 29604
> -/+ buffers/cache: 154508 101320
> Swap: 401616 12764 388852
> [shridhar(at)perth shridhar]$
>
> Here the important value is second value in second line, 101320. That's
true
> free memory. Remeber when system needs memory, it can always shrunk
> cache/buffers. In both of your stats, cache+memory are roughly 400MB.
>
> Relax, your system is not starving for memory...
>
> > do you need more information here?
>
> Not for this problem, but just curious. What does uname -a says?
>
> Secondly just curious, with 5000 requests per minute, what is the peak
number
> of connection you are getting? You should look int pooling parameters for
> better performance..
>
> HTH
>
>
> Bye
> Shridhar
>
> --
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> the whole circus.
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