Re: select results on pg_class incomplete

From: Thiemo Kellner <thiemo(at)gelassene-pferde(dot)biz>
To: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>, pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: select results on pg_class incomplete
Date: 2024-03-14 18:08:12
Message-ID: 93762902-0df2-4795-9068-66bfc1e7a145@gelassene-pferde.biz
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Thanks for the enlightenment. A pity. I suppose, there is no working
around this?

Am 14.03.2024 um 18:01 schrieb Adrian Klaver:
> On 3/14/24 09:41, Thiemo Kellner wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am trying to access PostgreSQL meta data, possibly in a vane attempt
>> to get size data.
>>
>> I use DbVis with a connection as shown in https://ibb.co/2SDzhXt . I
>> try to get information on a regular table "umsaetze". When doing the
>> DbVis object I can see them - https://ibb.co/WxMnY2c . If I execute
>> following SQL query in DbVis's SQL Commander, the result set is empty
>> - https://ibb.co/GngdWLH .
>>
>> select *
>>    from PG_CLASS
>>   where RELNAME = 'umsaetze';
>>
>> I noticed that the sessions producing the different results are not
>> the same - https://ibb.co/wdKcCFc , but seem to connect to different
>> databases. The "missing" table is indeed in the budget database.
>>
>> The connection user is, apart from being member of pg_monitor vanilla
>> - https://ibb.co/DGs6sQz and https://ibb.co/8xzHrvP .
>>
>> It seems, that in pg_class only is, with respect to custom databases,
>> listed what is in the database one connects to - https://ibb.co/dbbJVbJ.
>
> As listed on the tin:
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/catalogs-overview.html
>
> "Most system catalogs are copied from the template database during
> database creation and are thereafter database-specific. A few catalogs
> are physically shared across all databases in a cluster; these are noted
> in the descriptions of the individual catalogs."
>
> pg_class is not one of the global tables.
>
>>
>> template1=> select count(*)
>>    from PG_CLASS
>>   where RELNAME = 'umsaetze';
>>   count
>> -------
>>       0
>> (1 row)
>>
>> template1=> \q
>>
>> C:\Users\thiemo\AppData\Roaming\MOBAXT~1\home>psql -h hp-slimline-260
>> -p 5436 -U monitor budget
>> psql (11.2, server 16.1 (Debian 16.1-1.pgdg110+1))
>> WARNING: psql major version 11, server major version 16.
>>           Some psql features might not work.
>> SSL connection (protocol: TLSv1.2, cipher:
>> ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384, bits: 256, compression: off)
>> Type "help" for help.
>>
>> budget=> select count(*)
>>    from PG_CLASS
>>   where RELNAME = 'umsaetze';
>>   count
>> -------
>>       2
>> (1 row)
>>
>> budget=> \q
>>
>>
>> Is there a possibility to make the user monitor see all the objects of
>> the cluster? Background is that I was hoping to create a query to spit
>> out the size of tables in the cluster.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Thiemo
>>
>>
>

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