Re: ALTER TABLE on system catalogs

From: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: ALTER TABLE on system catalogs
Date: 2018-07-13 09:05:10
Message-ID: 920b7cde-6926-4ad3-936b-7637f0a8188f@2ndquadrant.com
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On 28.06.18 10:14, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 6/28/18 01:10, Michael Paquier wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 01:37:33PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
>>> On 2018-06-27 22:31:30 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>>>> I propose that we instead silently ignore attempts to add TOAST tables
>>>> to shared and system catalogs after bootstrapping.
>>>
>>> That seems like an extremely bad idea to me. I'd rather go ahead and
>>> just add the necessary toast tables than silently violate preconditions
>>> that code assumes are fulfilled.
>>
>> Agreed. Joe Conway was working on a patch to do exactly that. I was
>> personally looking for the possibility of having one with pg_authid in
>> v12 :)
>
> OK, that would change things a bit, in that the silent addition of a
> TOAST table would no longer be a problem, but it wouldn't fix the other
> scenarios that end up in an error. If such a patch is forthcoming, we
> can revisit this again afterwards.

After reviewing that thread, I think my patch would still be relevant.
Because the pending proposal is to not add TOAST tables to some catalogs
such as pg_attribute, so my original use case of allowing ALTER TABLE /
SET on system catalogs would still be broken for those tables.

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Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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