From: | Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> |
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To: | Ron <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Real application clustering in postgres. |
Date: | 2020-03-09 08:52:49 |
Message-ID: | 8d63a96984d44437759a5f439642ab33f304e4ae.camel@cybertec.at |
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On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 10:56 -0600, Ron wrote:
> > > > RAC is not really a high availability solution: because of the shared
> > > > storage, it has a sibgle point of failure.
> > > This is utter nonsense. Dual redundant storage controllers
> > > connected to disks in RAID-10 configurations have been around for at
> > > least 25 years.
> > >
> > > Oracle got it's clustering technology from DEC, and I know
> > > that works. Cluster members, storage controllers and disks have all
> > > gone down, while the database and application keep on humming along.
> >
> > I am not saying that it is buggy, it is limited by design.
> >
> > If you have mirrored disks, and you write junk (e.g, because of
> > a flaw in a fibre channel cable, something I have witnessed),
> > then you have two perfectly fine copies of the junk.
>
> Why do you have just one FC path?
We didn't.
It just happened that the cable that the data were sent over was buggy.
> > I am not saying the (physical) disk is the single point of failure, the
> > (logical) file system is (Oracle calls it ASM / tablespace, but it is
> > still a file system).
>
> Why isn't the filesystem (or RDBMS) throwing checksum errors? This was
> standard stuff in legacy Enterprise RDBMSs 20 years ago.
Checksums are nice for telling you that your storage is screwed.
They don't fix the problem.
Yours,
Laurenz Albe
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