From: | Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com> |
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To: | "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | jian he <jian(dot)universality(at)gmail(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, David Gauthier <dfgpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: \dt shows table but \d <table> says the table doesn't exist ? |
Date: | 2024-05-04 04:22:55 |
Message-ID: | 8a888f00-3752-463e-87c6-bb3979c7a4b8@aklaver.com |
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On 5/3/24 21:06, David G. Johnston wrote:
> On Friday, May 3, 2024, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us
> <mailto:tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>> wrote:
>
>
> By and large, I'd expect people using mixed-case table names to get
> accustomed pretty quickly to the fact that they have to double-quote
> those names in SQL. I don't see why it's a surprise that that is also
> true in \d commands.
>
>
> Every day the number of people increases who get mixed-case names in
> their DB because their client language preserves case and doesn’t
> require quoting.
In a sense they do by making quoting the default, which people find out
when they stray from the language/ORM/framework and get pointed at:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/sql-syntax-lexical.html#SQL-SYNTAX-IDENTIFIERS
>
> And it isn’t like any sane person is using case to distinguish names in
> their DB and so would be at risk of seeing multiple unwanted matches for
> any given pattern.
Have you met people?
>
> I don’t think name pattern matching during object lookup is a good tool
> to wield to try and convince people that using camel case is a bad idea
> and they should use snake case instead. If they don’t write enough raw
> SQL to be annoyed by their choice more power to them, making \d more
> accessible for them is a win and snake case people won’t notice or care.
>
> David J.
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Adrian Klaver
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