Re: Cleaning up the books page

From: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Cleaning up the books page
Date: 2023-07-17 11:40:13
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> On 17 Jul 2023, at 13:26, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 1:23 PM Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17 Jul 2023, at 13:07, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2023-Jul-17, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>>>
>>>> While adding the latest books to the books page I (re-)realized how much cruft
>>>> that page has accumulated. A lot of books have links which are dead, some are
>>>> listed multiple times in different editions, and many of them cover long since
>>>> EOL version of postgres. On top of that, the indentation is quite creative.
>>>>
>>>> The attached set cleans up that page to make the content IMO more relevant and
>>>> helpful to our users. As we've never claimed to have a complete list of all
>>>> books ever published, keeping the old stuff on-line has no historical interest
>>>> since Google, Amazon and others do a much better job at keeping such things
>>>> available.
>>>
>>> I don't object to your cleanups, but would it make more sense to move
>>> the book listing to the pgweb database instead?
>>
>> I think that would make a lot of sense, and is a good next step once the data
>> (and markup) is reasonably clean. Even better if we can make it such that new
>> books are submitted to the backend with moderator approval like
>> announce/organizations, but I don't know Django well enough to know how much
>> work that would be.
>
> We've looked at that before, and the thing that's usually made us say
> no in the end is handling of the images. It's not all that hard to do,
> but it is a threshold, and we don't have a lot of updates in the big
> scheme of things...

Now that you mention it, I think I've heard that before when this was discussed
last. We could however add a blurb to the top of the page with instructions
how to submit and include a link to pgsql-www. Right now it's not obvious how
to get listed there, which clearly isn't helpful.

> (And for the archeologist, there is an open ticket
> since 2011 to do it, in the nobody-ever-views-it pgweb tracker)

Odd, I've heard that bugtrackers magically make all things better</sarcasm>

--
Daniel Gustafsson

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