From: | Greg Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu> |
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To: | Andrew Sullivan <ajs(at)crankycanuck(dot)ca> |
Cc: | pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: row-attribute in EXPLAIN-output doesn't match count(*) |
Date: | 2005-04-14 19:44:57 |
Message-ID: | 8764ypf8hy.fsf@stark.xeocode.com |
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Andrew Sullivan <ajs(at)crankycanuck(dot)ca> writes:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 07:21:38PM +0200, Andreas Joseph Krogh wrote:
> >
> > So, what you're suggesting is that a restart of the webapp should make vacuum
> > able to delete those dead rows?
>
> Yes, but that'll only solve your problem for now. You'll have the
> problem again soon. What's keeping open the transaction?
This is presumably because of the long-standing issue that Postgres takes the
snapshot as soon as the BEGIN is issued. A lot of drivers issue a "COMMIT;
BEGIN;" right away even though it could be a long time before any actual work
is done.
Other databases (by which I mean Oracle) treat BEGIN as a noop. The snapshot
starts when the first SQL statement that needs a snapshot is executed. So
until a SELECT is issued the connection doesn't participate in any
transactional issues like keeping old versions of records around.
--
greg
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