From: | Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com> |
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To: | Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Will LaShell <will(at)lashell(dot)net>, Christopher Browne <cbbrowne(at)acm(dot)org>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: start of transaction (was: Re: [PERFORM] Help with count(*)) |
Date: | 2003-11-16 22:55:41 |
Message-ID: | 873ccnc49e.fsf@mailbox.samurai.com |
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Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee> writes:
> For me, the "start of transaction" is not about time, but about grouping
> a set of statements into one. So making the exact moment of "start" be
> the first statement that actually does something with data seems
> perfectly reasonable.
This might be a perfectly logical change in semantics, but what
benefit does it provide over the old way of doing things?
What does BEGIN actually do now, from a user's perspective? At
present, it "starts a transaction block", which is pretty simple. If
we adopted the proposed change, it would "change the state of the
system so that the next command is part of a new transaction". This is
naturally more complex; but more importantly, what benefit does it
ACTUALLY provide to the user?
(I can't see one, but perhaps I'm missing something...)
> Delaying the locking effects of transactions as long as possible can
> increase performance overall, not just for pathological clients that sit
> on idle open transactions.
I agree, but this is irrelevant to the semantics of now().
-Neil
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