From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: cheaper snapshots |
Date: | 2011-07-28 14:33:11 |
Message-ID: | 8401.1311863591@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> My hope was, that this contention would be the same than simply writing
>> the WAL buffers currently, and thus largely hidden by the current WAL
>> writing sync mechanisma.
>>
>> It really covers just the part which writes commit records to WAL, as
>> non-commit WAL records dont participate in snapshot updates.
> I'm confused by this, because I don't think any of this can be done
> when we insert the commit record into the WAL stream. It has to be
> done later, at the time we currently remove ourselves from the
> ProcArray. Those things need not happen in the same order, as I noted
> in my original post.
But should we rethink that? Your point that hot standby transactions on
a slave could see snapshots that were impossible on the parent was
disturbing. Should we look for a way to tie "transaction becomes
visible" to its creation of a commit WAL record? I think the fact that
they are not an indivisible operation is an implementation artifact, and
not a particularly nice one.
regards, tom lane
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