RE: OID Perfomance - Object-Relational databases

From: Michael Ansley <Michael(dot)Ansley(at)intec-telecom-systems(dot)com>
To: "'Mitch Vincent'" <mitch(at)venux(dot)net>
Cc: sqllist <pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: RE: OID Perfomance - Object-Relational databases
Date: 2000-10-03 16:35:35
Message-ID: 7F124BC48D56D411812500D0B7472514061452@fileserver002.intecsystems.co.uk
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Unsigned, I think you can double it, although I haven't applied much thought
to this, so I could well be wrong.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mitch Vincent [mailto:mitch(at)venux(dot)net]
>> Sent: 03 October 2000 17:35
>> To: Michael Ansley
>> Cc: sqllist
>> Subject: Re: [SQL] OID Perfomance - Object-Relational databases
>>
>>
>> Aren't OIDs just integers? Isn't this limit just the limit
>> of the value an
>> int4 can hold?
>>
>> 2,147,483,647 is the max for an int4 (I think) so at 500
>> million a day
>> you're looking at more like 4.29 (and change) days
>>
>> If I'm correct in all the above, there wouldn't be any way
>> to increase the
>> limit without the server running on a 64-bit machine
>> (which you could do, I
>> guess)..
>>
>> *shrug* just some thoughts..
>>
>> -Mitch
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Ansley" <Michael(dot)Ansley(at)intec-telecom-systems(dot)com>
>> To: <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>; "sqllist" <pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>> Cc: "Jeff MacDonald" <jeff(at)pgsql(dot)com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 9:17 AM
>> Subject: RE: [SQL] OID Perfomance - Object-Relational databases
>>
>>
>> > Hi, Josh,
>> >
>> > In fact, the last point about OIDs is particularly
>> pertinent, because we
>> are
>> > expected to process up to 500 million records daily,
>> thus exhausting the
>> > limit in, um, eight days.
>> >
>> > Is anybody aware of when this limit will be raised.
>> >
>> > Cheers...
>> >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Josh Berkus [mailto:josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com]
>> > >> Sent: 03 October 2000 17:06
>> > >> To: sqllist
>> > >> Cc: Jeff MacDonald
>> > >> Subject: [SQL] OID Perfomance - Object-Relational databases
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Folks,
>> > >>
>> > >> Because it's a very elegant solution to my database
>> > >> structure issues,
>> > >> I'm using OID's extensively as referents and foriegn keys.
>> > >> However, I
>> > >> wanted to see if others had previous experience in this
>> > >> (answer as many
>> > >> as you like):
>> > >>
>> > >> 1. Is there a performance loss on searches and joins when
>> > >> I use the OID
>> > >> as a liniking field as opposed to a SERIAL column?
>> > >>
>> > >> 2. Can I define my own index on the OIDs of a table?
>> > >>
>> > >> 3. What is the difference between these two DDL statements
>> > >> in terms of
>> > >> data access and PG-SQL performance (assuming that
>> table clients has
>> > >> already been defined):
>> > >>
>> > >> CREATE TABLE client_addresses AS (
>> > >> client_OID OID REFERENCES clients,
>> > >> address1 VARCHAR (30),
>> > >> address2 VARCHAR (30),
>> > >> address3 VARCHAR (30)
>> > >> )
>> > >> and:
>> > >> CREATE TABLE client_addresses AS (
>> > >> client clients,
>> > >> address1 VARCHAR (30),
>> > >> address2 VARCHAR (30),
>> > >> address3 VARCHAR (30)
>> > >> )
>> > >>
>> > >> (This is Michael's questions rephrased)
>> > >>
>> > >> 4. Int4 seems kinda small to me for a value that
>> needs to enumerate
>> > >> every single database object. Within a couple of years of
>> > >> heavy use, a
>> > >> customer-transaction database could easily exceed 2
>> billion objects
>> > >> created (and destroyed). Are there plans to expand
>> this to Int8?
>> > >>
>> > >> -Josh Berkus
>> > >>
>> > >> P.S. My aplolgies if I've already posted these
>> questions; I never
>> > >> received them back from the list mailer.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
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>> > >> Josh Berkus
>> > >> Complete information technology josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com
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>> > >> for law firms, small businesses fax 436-0137
>> > >> and non-profit organizations. pager 338-4078
>> > >> San Francisco
>> > >>
>> >
>>

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