Re: Non-superuser subscription owners

From: Mark Dilger <mark(dot)dilger(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Non-superuser subscription owners
Date: 2021-12-09 17:22:07
Message-ID: 7C8B9FA7-FECA-4C1C-9D0D-FCFE68C93EC3@enterprisedb.com
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> On Dec 9, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:55 AM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>> This patch does detect ownership changes more quickly (at the
>>> transaction boundary) than the current code (only when it reloads for
>>> some other reason). Transaction boundary seems like a reasonable time
>>> to detect the change to me.
>>>
>>> Detecting faster might be nice, but I don't have a strong opinion about
>>> it and I don't see why it necessarily needs to happen before this patch
>>> goes in.
>>
>> I think it would be better to do it before we allow subscription
>> owners to be non-superusers.
>
> I think it would be better not to ever do it at any time.
>
> It seems like a really bad idea to me to change the run-as user in the
> middle of a transaction.

I agree. We allow SET ROLE inside transactions, but faking one on the subscriber seems odd. No such role change was performed on the publisher side, nor is there a principled reason for assuming the old run-as role has membership in the new run-as role, so we'd be pretending to do something that might otherwise be impossible.

There was some discussion off-list about having the apply worker take out a lock on its subscription, thereby blocking ownership changes mid-transaction. I coded that and it seems to work fine, but I have a hard time seeing how the lock traffic would be worth expending. Between (a) changing roles mid-transaction, and (b) locking the subscription for each transaction, I'd prefer to do neither, but (b) seems far better than (a). Thoughts?


Mark Dilger
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