Re: Wrong link not pointing to the release tarball

From: Pavel Raiskup <praiskup(at)redhat(dot)com>
To: Dave Cramer <pg(at)fastcrypt(dot)com>
Cc: List <pgsql-jdbc(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Wrong link not pointing to the release tarball
Date: 2016-01-22 13:47:19
Message-ID: 7787876.armE2TEGtk@nb.usersys.redhat.com
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On Friday 22 of January 2016 08:32:25 Dave Cramer wrote:
> As I said this is a maven artifact.

Thanks for explanation.

> We actually don't expect anyone to build from a tarball.

Than you can count us in :) we were always tarball consumers. Building
from source is essential. If you could provide source tarball, that would
be perfect not only for us.

> The recommended way to build is to pull from github. However I'm sensing
> that you have a requirement to build from a tarball?

No :) tarball is not strict requirement, basically any well-known format
works well. The strict requirement is just to build from source which is
"signed-off-by" upstream. By that I mean that it is clear that the
package comes from your hands (upstream). Anybody should be able to get
that tarball without problems to check that I (as a packager) do not
cheat.

Pavel

> Dave Cramer
>
> davec(at)postgresintl(dot)com
> www.postgresintl.com
>
> On 22 January 2016 at 08:26, Pavel Raiskup <praiskup(at)redhat(dot)com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday 22 of January 2016 14:20:20 Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> > > On Friday 22 of January 2016 07:32:50 Dave Cramer wrote:
> > > > This is a standard maven artifact. Jar files can be opened using zip
> > tools.
> > > > If it is not usable in that state we can change it back although it
> > adds an
> > > > additional step
> > >
> > > Ah, I thought that was not intentional.
> > >
> > > Tarballs are the standard for releases of wast majority of FOSS projects
> > > -- as the 'ustar' format is defined by POSIX (and is _really_ simple,
> > > compared to zip) it is available probably everywhere. Fore example,
> > > PostgreSQL and Maven themselves are distributed in tarballs.
> > >
> > > As I write you from GNU/Linux, I definitely prefer .tar.gz, but OTOH,
> > this
> > > is probably not burning if nobody else cares -- I'm just surprised.
> > > I believe we are able to deal with jar/zip files.
> >
> > Actually, I'm afraid that the content of the zip file is not
> > self-standing .. but I'm not sure.
> >
> > For example, there is the full 'org/postgresql/..' file hierarchy, which
> > does not match what is in git. And also the pom.xml files are missing.
> >
> > Is that expected? What is the expected way to build from the [1] release
> > zip file?
> >
> > [1] https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download/postgresql-9.4.1207-sources.jar
> >
> > Pavel
> >
> >

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