Re: ZStandard (with dictionaries) compression support for TOAST compression

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Nikhil Kumar Veldanda <veldanda(dot)nikhilkumar17(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: ZStandard (with dictionaries) compression support for TOAST compression
Date: 2025-03-06 19:33:30
Message-ID: 720003.1741289610@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 12:43 AM Nikhil Kumar Veldanda
> <veldanda(dot)nikhilkumar17(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> Notably, this is the first compression algorithm for Postgres that can make use of a dictionary to provide higher levels of compression, but dictionaries have to be generated and maintained,

> I think that solving the problems around using a dictionary is going
> to be really hard. Can we see some evidence that the results will be
> worth it?

BTW, this is hardly the first such attempt. See [1] for a prior
attempt at something fairly similar, which ended up going nowhere.
It'd be wise to understand why that failed before pressing forward.

Note that the thread title for [1] is pretty misleading, as the
original discussion about JSONB-specific compression soon migrated
to discussion of compressing TOAST data using dictionaries. At
least from a ten-thousand-foot viewpoint, that seems like exactly
what you're proposing here. I see that you dismissed [1] as
irrelevant upthread, but I think you'd better look closer.

regards, tom lane

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/CAJ7c6TOtAB0z1UrksvGTStNE-herK-43bj22%3D5xVBg7S4vr5rQ%40mail.gmail.com

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