From: | "Merlin Moncure" <merlin(dot)moncure(at)rcsonline(dot)com> |
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To: | "Magnus Hagander" <mha(at)sollentuna(dot)net> |
Cc: | "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Planner really hates nested loops |
Date: | 2005-02-03 17:10:12 |
Message-ID: | 6EE64EF3AB31D5448D0007DD34EEB3412A760E@Herge.rcsinc.local |
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Magnus wrote:
> > > I'm hoping someone can shed some light on these results.
> >
> > Not without a lot more detail on how you *got* the results.
> > What exactly did you do to force the various plan choices?
> > (I see some ridiculous choices of indexscans, for instance,
> > suggesting improper use of enable_seqscan in some cases.)
> > And what's the "cache rows" and "disk rows" stuff, and how do
> > you know that what you were measuring is actually what you
> > think it is? I have zero confidence in Windows-atop-ATA as a
> > platform for measuring disk-related behaviors, because I
> > don't think you can control or even know what caching is going on.
>
> You can control the writeback-cache from Device Manager->(the
> disk)->Policies. And if that is turned off, fsync definitly should
write
> through, just as on *nix. (write-cache is on by default, no surprise)
There is some truth to what Tom is saying, we just can't seem to get our
development server to *quit* syncing with fsync=on, even though we have
the Promise raid controller (yeah, I know) configured to cache writes.
IOW, with certain configurations I just can't seem to delegate sync
responsibility to the raid controller. It is a matter of record that
certain crappy drives lie about caching but, IMO this is more of a
driver issue than a O/S issue. (aside: I have become quite a believer
in Western Digital parts, lately!)
Merlin
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