Re: Using postgresql.org account as an auth id on third party websites

On 23/9/19 9:28, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
> On 9/23/19 2:20 PM, Álvaro Hernández wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 23/9/19 10:26, Dave Page wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 10:45 PM Álvaro Hernández <aht(at)ongres(dot)com
>>> <mailto:aht(at)ongres(dot)com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 21/9/19 12:32, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>>>     > On 9/20/19 3:14 AM, Álvaro Hernández wrote:
>>>     >>
>>>     >
>>>     > [...]
>>>     >
>>>     >>> Oh, and as a general rule, "requesting" unpaid volunteers to
>>>     do work
>>>     >>> for you for free is in general not a great way to get them
>>>     >>> enthusiastic about helping out.
>>>     >>      Did I do so? I don't recall where or when I said that.
>>>     >>
>>>     >>      Irrespective of this: what you say I read as:
>>>     >>
>>>     >> - Either volunteers, due to being unpaid, are not doing their
>>> job
>>>     >> correctly (completely);
>>>     > tbh as one of those volunteers, I kinda find it pretty
>>>     irritating that
>>>     > that the very first time somebody asks for community auth being
>>>     opened
>>>     > to non-pginfra managed sites an association of "us" not doing
>>>     our job
>>>     > correctly comes up just because that feature does not (and/or
>>> is not
>>>     > implemented in the way you want it) do like.
>>>
>>>          TBQH, I'm having a really hard time to understand how this
>>>     conclusion could be derived from my words.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's exactly what I've inferred from your emails, and clearly I'm
>>> not alone :-(
>>
>>      In between this sentence you are replying to, and the next one,
>> there was this one which you removed from your response:
>>
>> "For the avoidance of doubt: Stefan, and any other pg-infra volunteer
>> or anyone else how felt bad about my words: my deepest and most
>> sincere apology. I never, under any circumstance, intended to do any
>> negative statement about the job done or the team itself. I have a
>> great deal of respect to any kind of volunteering in general, let
>> alone for the one on helping on the technology that I love. I have
>> volunteered tons of work on Postgres myself, and I cannot otherwise
>> that feel in the same page. pg-infra: I know the work that you do and
>> have done, and I really appreciate it, specially given how small team
>> you are."
>>
>>      The fact that you are still replying to the above sentence with
>> the paragraph that follows removed, means that either:
>>
>> * you didn't read it (in which case, please do);
>
> have you ever considered that dave just wanted to express that he had
> similiar feelings to what I had - simply claiming he didn't read your
> apology seems like a weird interpretation...

    Have you ever considered accepting, or even thanking, my apologies?

    Or at least, tell me if they are not enough for you.

    Best,

    Álvaro

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Alvaro Hernandez

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