From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu> |
Cc: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Ants Aasma <ants(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Enabling Checksums |
Date: | 2013-04-16 19:27:46 |
Message-ID: | 6846.1366140466@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> * WAL checksum is not used as the sole basis for end-of-WAL discovery.
>> We reuse the WAL files, so the prev field in each WAL record shows
>> what the previous end of WAL was. Hence if the WAL checksums give a
>> false positive we still have a double check that the data really is
>> wrong. It's unbelievable that you'd get a false positive and then have
>> the prev field match as well, even though it was the genuine
>> end-of-WAL.
> This is kind of true and kind of not true. If a system loses power
> while writing lots of data to WAL then the blocks at the end of the
> WAL might not be written out in order. Everything since the last log
> sync might be partly written out and partly not written out. That's
> the case where the checksum is critical. The beginning of a record
> could easily be written out including xl_prev and the end of the
> record not written. 1/64,000 power losses would then end up with an
> assertion failure or corrupt database.
I have a hard time believing that it's a good idea to add checksums to
data pages and at the same time weaken our ability to detect WAL
corruption. So this seems to me to be going in the wrong direction.
What's it buying for us anyway? A few CPU cycles saved during WAL
generation? That's probably swamped by the other costs of writing WAL,
especially if you're using replication.
regards, tom lane
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