Re: CTE inlining

From: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Serge Rielau <serge(at)rielau(dot)com>, Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz>, Craig Ringer <craig(dot)ringer(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Ilya Shkuratov <motr(dot)ilya(at)ya(dot)ru>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Mario Becroft <mb(at)true(dot)group>
Subject: Re: CTE inlining
Date: 2017-05-04 17:56:03
Message-ID: 67996352-f4e7-eec6-35b5-9223d26df26b@2ndQuadrant.com
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On 05/04/2017 01:52 PM, Joe Conway wrote:
> On 05/04/2017 10:33 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> I'm not sure what your point is. We know that for some cases the
>> optimization barrier semantics are useful, which is why the proposal is
>> to add a keyword to install one explicitely:
>>
>> with materialized r as
>> (
>> select json_populate_record(null::mytype, myjson) as x
>> from mytable
>> )
>> select (x).*
>> from r;
>>
>> this would preserve the current semantics.
> I haven't been able to follow this incredibly long thread, so please
> excuse me if way off base, but are we talking about that a CTE would be
> silently be rewritten as an inline expression potentially unless it is
> decorated with some new syntax?
>
> I would find that very disconcerting myself. For example, would this CTE
> potentially get rewritten with multiple evaluation as follows?
>
> DROP SEQUENCE IF EXISTS foo_seq;
> CREATE SEQUENCE foo_seq;
>
> WITH a(f1) AS (SELECT nextval('foo_seq'))
> SELECT a.f1, a.f1 FROM a;
> f1 | ?column?
> ----+----------
> 1 | 1
> (1 row)
>
> ALTER SEQUENCE foo_seq RESTART;
> SELECT nextval('foo_seq'), nextval('foo_seq');
> nextval | ?column?
> ---------+----------
> 1 | 2
> (1 row)
>

I think that would be a change in semantics, which we should definitely
not be getting. Avoiding a change in semantics might be an interesting
exercise, but we have lots of clever coders ...

cheers

andrew

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