Re: The need for clustered indexes to boost TPC-V performance

From: Reza Taheri <rtaheri(at)vmware(dot)com>
To: Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
Cc: "pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: The need for clustered indexes to boost TPC-V performance
Date: 2012-07-06 03:33:13
Message-ID: 66CE997FB523C04E9749452273184C6C137CC5C396@exch-mbx-113.vmware.com
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Just to be clear, we have a number of people from different companies working on the kit. This is not a VMware project, it is a TPC project. But I hear you regarding coming in from the cold and asking for a major db engine feature. I know that I have caused a lot of rolling eyes. Believe me, I have had the same (no, worse!) reaction from every one of the commercial database companies in response to similar requests over the past 25 years.

We have our skin in the game, and as long as the community values the benchmark and wants to support us, we will figure out the details as we go forward.

Thanks,
Reza

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Smith [mailto:greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:42 PM
> To: Reza Taheri
> Cc: pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org; Andy Bond (abond(at)redhat(dot)com);
> Greg Kopczynski; Jignesh Shah
> Subject: Re: [PERFORM] The need for clustered indexes to boost TPC-V
> performance
>
> On 07/03/2012 07:13 PM, Reza Taheri wrote:
> > Is the PGSQL community willing to invest in a feature that a) has been
> > requested by many others already; and b) can make a huge difference in
> > a benchmark that can lend substantial credibility to PGSQL performance?
>
> Larger PostgreSQL features usually get built because companies sponsor
> their development, they pass review as both useful & correct, and then get
> committed. Asking the community to invest in a new feature isn't quite the
> right concept. Yes, everyone would like one of the smaller index
> representations. I'm sure we can find reviewers willing to look at such a
> feature and committers who would also be interested enough to commit it,
> on a volunteer basis. But a feature this size isn't going to spring to life based
> just on volunteer work. The most useful questions would be "who would
> be capable of writing that feature?" and "how can we get them sponsored
> to focus on it?" I can tell from your comments yet what role(s) in that
> process VMWare wants to take on internally, and which it's looking for help
> with. The job of convincing people it's a useful feature isn't necessary--we
> know that's true.
>
> --
> Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com Baltimore, MD
> PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com

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