Re: damage control mode

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: damage control mode
Date: 2010-02-07 05:27:22
Message-ID: 603c8f071002062127r3afe45b1h41ec847976c9bd43@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> OK, we have a proposal on the table to bump some patches from this
>> CommitFest to free up more committer resources, particularly Tom, to
>> work on Hot Standby and Streaming Replication and attempt to
>> accelerate the process of getting 8.5 out the door.  This proposal
>> needs input from the community.  The affected patches are:
>
>> - Listen/Notify Rewrite.
>> - Writeable CTEs.
>> - more frame options for window functions
>> - knngist
>> - rbtree
>
> Looking at this list again, it strikes me that the listen/notify rewrite
> might need to go in so that we have a sane framework for listen/notify
> with HS.  Treating pg_listener as a replicatable table isn't sane at
> all, whereas with a message-driven notify mechanism we have at least got
> the possibility of shipping the messages to the standby (via WAL) and
> having listeners there.  I don't want to say we'd actually implement
> that in 8.5, but shipping pg_listener tuple updates is just completely
> nuts.
>
> The other four things have no apparent connection to HS/SR so I think
> they could be punted without creating technical issues.  Whether this
> is really necessary from a schedule viewpoint is not clear yet.
>
> My thought about it would be to put these four on the back burner;
> not necessarily bounce them right away, but not put any effort into
> them until we have dealt with the other stuff in the January CF.
> At that point we should have a feel for where we are schedule-wise,
> and in particular we'll know whether SR is in or not ;-)

I think it might be time to revisit this issue. SR is in, and we have
a week left in the CF, and we have all of the above patches plus 5
small ones left to deal with. rbtree is close to being committable, I
think; knngist has not been reviewed yet; you (Tom) have claimed the
frame options patch but I haven't seen any update on it in a while; I
doubt either of the other two are ready to commit but I'm not sure how
far they have to go.

Thoughts?

...Robert

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