Re: MySQL-ism help patch for psql

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, David Christensen <david(at)endpoint(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Subject: Re: MySQL-ism help patch for psql
Date: 2010-01-20 14:48:26
Message-ID: 603c8f071001200648x51a9933by6af7c72c618fc872@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> wrote:
> On ons, 2010-01-20 at 09:05 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> I disagree.   No one has complained that we are being a "smartass" by
>> reporting this for "help" in psql:
>>
>>         You are using psql, the command-line interface to PostgreSQL.
>>         Type:  \copyright for distribution terms
>>                \h for help with SQL commands
>>                \? for help with psql commands
>>                \g or terminate with semicolon to execute query
>>                \q to quit
>>
>> while to be really helpful we would display \?.  After extensive
>> discussion we chose against that because we wanted to steer people to
>> the proper commands, rather than have them consider 'help' as a valid
>> command.  The same is true for the MySQL commands --- we just want to
>> point people to the proper commands.
>
> That's not the same thing.  The user typed "help" and you help him.  If
> the user types "show tables", you show him the tables.  If the user
> typed "show tables" and you send him a help message, that is not what
> the user wanted.

If what the user wanted was to be using MySQL, he is out of luck anyway.

I'm actually no big advocate of the \d commands. They're basically
magical queries that you can't easily see or edit - I've more than
once wished for a WHERE clause (\df WHERE "Result data type" =
'internal' or what have you. But I don't have a practical solution
for dealing with that problem, and I think trying to emulate MySQL is
probably not a good idea... what if we wanted to make "USE" actually
mean something some day? If it just prints out a helpful error
message, that could still be possible (and we lose the helpful error
message), but if people are expecting it to work, we're hosed.

...Robert

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