From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Greg Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org>, bogdan(at)omnidatagrup(dot)ro, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: SE-PostgreSQL and row level security |
Date: | 2009-02-16 17:18:21 |
Message-ID: | 603c8f070902160918s124266bai3c343903865c3cf0@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> I'm a little bothered by this issue with respect to INSERT, UPDATE,
>> and DELETE, since it's possible that I have permission to see rows but
>> not updated them, and it would be a little weird if select and update
>> with equivalent where clauses operated on different sets of records
>> (although that can happen anyway, because of BEFORE triggers, and it's
>> pretty irritating). It's not clear that there's a clean solution
>> here, but it's at least food for thought.
>
> 80% of the problem here is exactly that the proposed solution doesn't
> seem very semantically clean. And once we accept it we're going to be
> stuck with it for a long time --- compare for instance the multiple
> serious annoyances with RULEs, which we can't fix easily because of
> backwards compatibility considerations.
I've found rules in their current form to be nearly useless, except
for views, which are wonderful. I do everything else with triggers.
With reference to row-level security, most of the complaining about
this feature has been along the lines of "I don't like the idea that
rows get filtered from my result-set that I didn't ask to have
filtered". To me, the fact that you didn't have to ask seems like a
huge convenience, and I can't imagine why you'd want it otherwise.
Sure, the behavior needs to be documented, but that doesn't seem like
a big deal.
There may well be more substantive issues here but I've been following
this discussion fairly closely and I don't have a clear understanding
of what they are.
...Robert
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