Re: SELECT MIN, MAX took longer time than SELECT

From: K C Lau <kclau60(at)netvigator(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: SELECT MIN, MAX took longer time than SELECT
Date: 2006-01-21 13:38:55
Message-ID: 6.2.1.2.0.20060121211310.08cc91c8@localhost
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I have worked round the issue by using 2 separate queries with the LIMIT
construct.

LogSN and create_time are indeed directly correlated, both monotonously
increasing, occasionally with multiple LogSN's having the same create_time.

What puzzles me is why the query with COUNT, MIN, MAX uses idx_logtime for
the scan, but the query without the COUNT uses pk_log and takes much
longer. If it had chosen idx_logtime instead, then it should have returned
immediately for both MIN and MAX.

Best regards,
KC.

At 02:51 06/01/21, Tom Lane wrote:
>"Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby(at)pervasive(dot)com> writes:
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:35:36PM +0800, K C Lau wrote:
> > Here's the problem... the estimate for the backwards index scan is *way*
> > off:
>
> >> -> Limit (cost=0.00..1.26 rows=1 width=4) (actual
> >> time=200032.928..200032.931 rows=1 loops=1)
> >> -> Index Scan Backward using pk_log on
> >> log (cost=0.00..108047.11 rows=86089 width=4) (actual
> >> time=200032.920..200032.920 rows=1 loops=1)
> >> Filter: (((create_time)::text < '2005/10/19'::text) AND
> >> (logsn IS NOT NULL))
> >> Total runtime: 200051.701 ms
>
>It's more subtle than you think. The estimated rowcount is the
>estimated number of rows fetched if the indexscan were run to
>completion, which it isn't because the LIMIT cuts it off after the
>first returned row. That estimate is not bad (we can see from the
>aggregate plan that the true value would have been 106708, assuming
>that the "logsn IS NOT NULL" condition isn't filtering anything).
>
>The real problem is that it's taking quite a long time for the scan
>to reach the first row with create_time < 2005/10/19, which is not
>too surprising if logsn is strongly correlated with create_time ...
>but in the absence of any cross-column statistics the planner has
>no very good way to know that. (Hm ... but both of them probably
>also show a strong correlation to physical order ... we could look
>at that maybe ...) The default assumption is that the two columns
>aren't correlated and so it should not take long to hit the first such
>row, which is why the planner likes the indexscan/limit plan.
>
> regards, tom lane

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