Re: PG in container w/ pid namespace is init, process exits cause restart

From: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PG in container w/ pid namespace is init, process exits cause restart
Date: 2021-05-04 18:07:06
Message-ID: 5aef7eed-613c-4423-568c-38442d8f1ae7@joeconway.com
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On 5/4/21 1:43 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu> writes:
>> On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 15:44, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>> BTW, as far as that goes, I think the general recommendation is that
>>> the datadir shouldn't be a mount point, because bad things happen if
>>> you mount or unmount the drive while the postmaster is up. I could
>>> see enforcing that, if we could find a reasonably platform-independent
>>> way to do it.
>
>> I don't think the problem is unmounting -- on BSD you have to try
>> really hard to unmount filesystems that have files open on them and
>> afaik you can't do it on Linux at all (which I still claim is the
>> original sin that led to the fsync issues).
>> The problem was mounting filesystems if it happened late -- ie. After
>> Postgres had started up. It was exacerbated by some startup scripts
>> that would automatically run initdb if there was nothing present.
>
> Yeah, at least that was the case that somebody (Joe Conway if memory
> serves) reported years ago.

Guilty as charged ;-)

Joe
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