Re: New archives layout is not an improvement

From: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>
Cc: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: New archives layout is not an improvement
Date: 2018-04-21 00:21:51
Message-ID: 5FE2EF90-9965-456F-AE9B-4C3421DD2CEA@postgresql.org
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> On Apr 20, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> wrote:
>
> Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:34:15PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>> "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org> writes:
>>>>> We’ve made a deploy to help with the browsing and reading experiences
>>>>> that you have mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> This is definitely an improvement, thanks!
>>>
>>> I like the message page density now, but the loss of index page
>>> (e.g. https://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-hackers/since/201804181425)
>>> density is still dramatic. My viewport that formerly fit 43 subject lines now
>>> fits 14.
>>
>> How do you feel about scrolling on this page in a mobile view? I ask because
>> we may need to balance how many entries appear on desktop vs. mobile,
>> but before adjusting I’d like to get some feedback on if we need more/less
>> entries in mobile view as well.
>
> I looked at the same yesterday and I agree with Noah. There's too much
> vertical space there.
>
> I think the problem of horizontal scrolling in mobile for the archives
> (mentioned by Peter G) is so serious, that the archives are just not
> usable in mobile at all. If the archives in mobile are unusable, why
> try to cater with minor spacing tweaks? Adjusting vertical spacing to
> help mobile is really a thing too minor -- it needs a major revamp
> first, in particular to handle text flow, as Peter suggests. (I don't
> know specifically about using the Gmail algorithm, whatever that is.)

I have fixed for the mobile scrolling of the messages prepared, it is just
awaiting deploy. If this seems to do the trick, I’ll focus on the other aspects
of navigating through the archives on desktop/mobile.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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